Re: Date of GThomas Re: [GTh] "Why is the Gospel of St. Thomas dismissed by the Vatican as heresy?"
- At 01:56 PM 3/5/2011, M.W. Grondin wrote:
...Which is not to divert attention from the main issue of whether Irenaeus knew
of GTh. It's just that I can't think of any solid reasons for answering one way or
the other. ...
Well, I still thinks it leans towards a late date for the compilation of GTh. To argue that Irenaeus just didn't know about GTh is to argue that he knew nothing about a particular work dealing with a subject he was intensely interested in, and would have had the ability to obtain, had he known about it. If you actually look through the surviving text of adv. her., the scope of Irenaeus' reading may impress you as much as it does me. Not only that, but Irenaus looked for secondary references to his sources, so if someone else cited it, he would know about GTh by that route, too. He doesn't seem the type to have left stones unturned. IIRC, he was trying to defend the faith against *all* heresies, so even if there were only rumors of GTh, he would have hunted it down, or at least made snide comments about what he had heard.
...On the procedural level, I'm gratified that Dick's message got through. It did
so because I changed our group settings a couple days ago, as an experiment.
Whereas previously messages from non-members were automatically dumped
into the abyss without notice, I wanted to see what would happen if we allowed
messages from anyone. (This isn't as dangerous as it sounds, because messages
from non-members still have to be pre-approved to get posted.) Since the change,
we've received three messages from non-members. Two were spam, but the third
(Dick's) was exactly the kind of thing I had hoped for.
I'm gratified, too. IOW, listers who want to reply to Dick probably should include Dick's email address in the CC: line if you don't want to depend on him stopping by to read the list, shouldn't they?