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[GTh] Re: Who Was Judas Thomas?

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  • Paul Lanier
    JACK: Eisenman appears to function in two areas. One is as a popular writer where envelopes are really pushed to the point of being almost Thiering-like.
    Message 1 of 22 , Dec 8, 2010
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      JACK: Eisenman appears to function in two areas. One is as a "popular" writer where envelopes are really pushed to the point of being almost "Thiering-like."

      PAUL: Agreed. I wanted to piece together Eisenman's argument because he does not state it explicitly.

      JACK: There is no such person as "Judas the Zealot" in the New Testament.

      PAUL: The weakest part of Eisenman's argument is his identifying one "Judas the Zealot," known only from two variant manuscripts of the Syriac Apostolic Constitutions, as the brother of Simon the Zealot.

      JACK: "James Zebedee" (Yaqub Bar Zebedey or "Jacob son of Zebediah") was "James the Greater/Elder" who was beheaded by Agrippa in 42-44 CE and Yaqub Bar Yahosef (James, the Righteous) was Jesus' brother, killed in 62 CE and definitely not the same people or "rewrites."

      PAUL: Eisenman discounts many extant accounts in order to pursue his idea that three of Jesus' brothers were "written out" of the gospels, becoming instead Apostles with the same names. I don't see how something like that can really be proved. Eisenman believes he explains various narrative overlaps and parallels among the multiple Jameses, Simonses, and Judases of the New Testament.

      JACK: 1st century Jewish naming praxis used about 10 names most frequently, Shymeon/Simon being first, Yehudah/Judas second, Yaqub/Jacob third, Yohanan/John fourth, Yahosef/Joseph fifth and Yeshua/Jesus sixth, it was common practice to use a nickname or some identifier as to WHICH Yehudah/Judas by a father first or a brother is the brother was well known or a place of origin.

      PAUL: Granted. Eisenman does not speak to the probability that two small first century Jewish groups (brothers and Apostles) would have three names in common.
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