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  • Tom Saunders
    Hi Andrew, You say... E.g. in saying 14 a reference to healing the sick occurs which is irrelevant in its context in Thomas but makes perfect sense in the
    Message 1 of 1 , Jun 9, 2003
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      Hi Andrew,

      You say...
      E.g. in saying 14 a reference to healing the sick occurs
      which is irrelevant in its context in Thomas but makes perfect sense
      in the parallel in Luke 10:9 and in saying 57

      I don't see a parallel to your reference to GT 14 and healing. Saying 14 goes:

      GT 14. Jesus said to them, "If you fast, you will bring sin upon yourselves, and if you pray, you will be condemned, and if you give to charity, you will harm your spirits. When you go into any region and walk about in the countryside, when people take you in, eat what they serve you and heal the sick among them. After all, what goes into your mouth will not defile you; rather, it's what comes out of your mouth that will defile you."

      2/ Several sayings in Thomas seem to refer to distinctively
      Gnostic ideas.....
      As for "Gnostic ideas' you have to consider that the term gnostic itself came about in 12th Century France. The term just does not convey a true meaning to a concept aligned with a practice(s) that existed hundreds of years prior to it. We could call Taoists, Gnostics.

      3/ There are connections between Thomas and the 2nd
      century Syriac Christian tradition. Not only linguistic and
      textual similarities but also such ideas as the "single one"
      important in Thomas and in Syrian monasticism.

      Could this be a reference to the Penn dissertation, which argues that Thomas is a 2nd Century Syriac document, based upon the 'catch phrases' aligned with Syrian language? NONSENSE! They gave this guy a Ph.D.. for that idea.

      I think you have to argue the following ideas as a the standard to disprove.....

      There seem to be no solid alignments with textual, historical, or archeological elements of the 2nd Century you can make stick to the GThom. All known issues of the GThom are from the earliest records of Christian history. The window of opportunity for the first writing of the GThom was in the Apostle's Village, before 50 C.E.

      Tom Saunders

      Platter Flats, OK

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