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Re: Thomas and John

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  • swallison
    ... I too agree that it is an underdeveloped topic. It should be further explored. Steve Allison
    Message 1 of 4 , Jun 9, 2003
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      --- In gthomas@yahoogroups.com, "rickmsumner" <Sumner_richard_m@h...>
      wrote:
      > Another persuasive point: Three times Thomas speaks in the GJohn
      > (11.14, 16.5, and the Doubting Thomas pericope). All three times it
      > is in the context of the resurrection. All three times he is
      > wrong. Blessed are those who, unlike Thomas, do not need to see to
      > believe (20.29).
      >
      > Gregory J. Riley's _Resurrection Reconsidered_ discusses the
      > resurrection traditions of the Thomasine and Johanine gospels at
      > length, J. H. Charlesworth takes a slightly different road in his
      > _The Beloved Disciple_ and contends that the disciple in question is
      > none other than Thomas. Both discuss the seemingly blatant
      > relationship between the Johanine Thomas and the Thomasine
      > traditions.
      >
      > I'd venture to agree, it seems too much to be coincidental. And
      > rather surprising that it's such an underdeveloped topic. I too
      > have ordered Pagel's book.
      >
      > Regards,
      > Rick Sumner
      >

      I too agree that it is an underdeveloped topic. It should be further
      explored.

      Steve Allison
    • pessy@chez.com
      ... a few verses with lotsa holes in it, nowhere near conclusive. ... non sequitur Klaus Schilling
      Message 2 of 4 , Jun 9, 2003
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        swallison writes:
        >
        > A fragment of GJohn found in a backwater part of Egypt dates to about
        > 120 to 130 AD, if memory serves me correctly.

        a few verses with lotsa holes in it, nowhere near conclusive.

        > Thus it must have been
        > around for several decades at least.

        non sequitur


        Klaus Schilling
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