Re: [gthomas] Dialogue of the Saviour
- on 9/28/00 7:03 AM, Tom Ragland at tomragland@... wrote:
> One document preserved by the monks at Nag Hammadi is the Dialogue of theVery interesting list Tom. I've just gone through it without looking
> Saviour. It is only preserved in this one copy in a fragmented state.
> Before this 1945 find, it was never heard of or referenced. Nag Hammadi
> Library was preserved around 350 AD. This is the fifth document in codex
> (book) three.
> My first reaction was that the feel is more like the Gospel of John than the
> synoptic gospels. There are a few more Gnostic concepts than found in the
> Gospel of Thomas.
anything up and I can see a number of parallels. As you'll see, there are
actually many synoptic parallels. But I don't have GJohn quite as much at
the tip of my tongue (or fingers) so I might just be missing the Johannine
parallels. But the material does seem to be common to a number of different
>Seems like the rest/repose of Thomas et al.
> (1) Now the time is at hand brothers for us to abandon our work and take a
> (1) I opened the Way and taught them about the Gate which they will enterSynoptic--Narrow is the gate, strait the way, etc.
> (8) The lamp of the body is the psyche. As long as the inner you is kept inSounds like a variation on seek & ye shall find/Thomas 1
> order, the outer you, the body, will be full of light.
> (10,12) The one who has sought is the one who now reveals. The one who
> speaks has to have first listened. The one who reveals has to have first
> had a vision.
> (14,34) If one does not stand in the darkness he will not be able to see theSounds like Thomas's renouncing the world
> (20) Let the one who has authority renounce it and repent.
> (30) Everyone who has known himself has seen goodness in everything he does.Sounds like Gospel of Philip
> (34) You are from the place where the hearts speak out of joy. In truth
> this is your very existence.
> (35) If one fails to understand fire, he will get burned. If one fails to
> understand water, he should not swim. If one fails to understand wind, he
> will be blown away. If one fails to understand the origin and purpose of
> the body one is wearing, he will die with it.
> (38) Like a vision of a loud flash of lightning will the good be taken toSon of Man like lightning in the east etc.
> the light.
> (44) Save the part of you can lasts. Seek it out and speak from within it.Synoptic/Thomas/Philip/wisdom/Gnostic bridal chamber
> When you are striving through it, everything will be in harmony for you.
> (50) You will rule over the archons (demons). Ridding yourself of jealousy,
> you will be clothed in light and enter the bridal chamber (the wedding
> (52) The clothing of life are given to the one who has discovered the Way byclothing is everywhere
> which he will leave.
> (55) You are from the Pleroma (fullness, heaven) and you live in the realmThomasine
> of emptiness.
> (57) When the living part leaves the dead part then the living part will beThomas likes living & dead too, v.Thomasine
> called on.
> (59) What is born again from Truth will never die (pneuma, spirit). What isThis also occurs in the Gospel of the Egyptians in patristic citings. Also,
> born from a woman must die (body).
"born of woman" in Thomas, synoptics, John, Paul etc.
> (66,68) You may find rest as soon as you let go of your burdens. When yourepose etc., plus "my burden is light" synoptic
> abandon that which cannot follow you, then you will find the path of rest.
> (70) Seeking out Life is the true treasure. The gold and silver of theSynoptic/Thomas treasure
> world are only misleading.
> (74) The gate to the way is made of love and goodness. If one of theAndrew Smith
> archons had have discovered this gate, evil would not have come into being.