[gthomas] Re: The Lion again
- Original post follows this reply:
In response to Andrews question: "Does anyone else think that these add
up to suggest an ultimately Jewish source for Logion #7?"
The evidence presented below is not significant enough to warrant
attribution of the logion to jewish sources. Especially since the rest
of GTH appears to be derisive if not down right hostile to
Judaism/Jews/Israel. Also, mythological world referenced by Logion #7
is mostly likely one so syncretistic if not absolutely Gnostic that it
would almost necessitate a non-jewish origin. Remember
pre-Chrisitian/Jewish Gnosticism is at best a scholar postulation.
A well reasoned and thorough treatment of this Logion is best found in
the classic dissertation of Dr. Howard Jackson: "The Lion Becomes Man:
The Gnostic Leontomorphic Creator and the Platonic Tradition."
In other words, I think that GTH is doing exactly the opposite of what
is proposed. Judaism vis-a-vie YAHWEH is transformed into the
demiurge, not a good thing, and is judged harshly by Thomas Christians.
> Logion 7 states, "Blessed is the lion which the man eats, and the lionhe did
> will become man, and cursed is the man which the lion eats, and the
> lion will become man."
> from the Talmud:
> "When Rabbi Hanina ben Dosa prayed, a poisonous reptile bit him, but
> not interrupt his prayer. They departed and found the same 'snake'dead at
> the opening of its hole. 'Woe to the man', they exclaimed, 'bitten bya
> snake, but woe to the snake which has bitten Rabbi Hanina ben Dosa.'form of
> This seems like an interesting parallel to me, at least as to the
> the saying.to that
> As to the symbolism of the story, I do think that that it is common
> of Samson and the lion. Samson kills the lion, then marries Delilah,then
> sees the corpse of the lion, in which bees have nested, producinghoney. He
> takes the honey and eats it. This seems to have much in common with"blessed
> is the lion that the man eats.", in that the lion been transformed,"out of
> the eater came what is eaten, and out of the strong came what issweet."
> A similar motif is found in the story of Daniel in the lion's pit. In
> 6:17-25 the men who had accused Daniel are eaten by the lions, whereasthe later
> Daniel survives because an angel stops the mouths of the lions. In
> addition to the story, part of Bel and the Dragon in the Apocrypha,Daniel
> 14:31-42, an angel takes the prophet Habakkuk by the hair to the lionpit
> where he gives his meal to Daniel and then is whisked off again by theis
> angel. So again, although Daniel doesn't literally eat the lions, he
> given food by an angel while he is in with the lions, in contrast tothe men
> who are eaten by the lions.Jewish
> Does anyone else think that these add up to suggest an ultimately
> source for Logion #7?
> Andrew Smith