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Re: Long Shoots I've seen both, but most places agree that Norton is the older name. I've seen one listed as a 'sport', a seedling, a mutation, and a clone of the other,
H.Jack McCunn_Jr.
Mar 27
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Re: Long Shoots Jack, I've never seen Cynthiana claimed as the older variety. Norton dates to the early 1820's. Cliff has made lots of grapebreeder posts about it over the
s_h_bailey
Mar 26
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15388
Re: Long Shoots I've read the opposite. Cynthiana was the older name/vine, and a fellow named Norton claimed to have bred the 'Norton' grape - which he may have done if it is
H.Jack McCunn_Jr.
Mar 25
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Re: Long Shoots Cynthiana is a selfed offspring or knock off name of Norton. Norton is documented to be almost 200 years old. Regarding Ned's original question, I take it
s_h_bailey
Mar 25
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Re: Long Shoots Jack, Yeah I know. I just misread the original 15' (as far as ft vs inches) comment is all. Scot McPherson, PMP CISSP MCSA Shoreline, CT Sent from my iPhone
Scot McPherson
Mar 24
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Re: Long Shoots A 'cubit'?' = feet, "= inches. Norton is an American vine, a hybrid of 3 types, aestivalis, vinifera and maybe one other (I've seen different wild vines listed
H.Jack McCunn_Jr.
Mar 24
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Re: Long Shoots You're right, sorry Scot McPherson, PMP CISSP MCSA Shoreline, CT Sent from my iPhone
Scot McPherson
Mar 24
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Re: Long Shoots I tried to have 40 buds per vine last year. My concern is with these long shoots. Should I trim them to about 6 feet? ... Ned Smith N 34,53,38.13 W 85,28,17.10
Ned Smith
Mar 24
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Re: Long Shoots You need a longer Cordon and leave more buds on each Cordon. How many buds did you leave last year? Jim
jbaker_engineering
Mar 24
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Re: Long Shoots He said 15 feet _____ From: growgrapes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:growgrapes@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scot McPherson Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 5:54 PM To:
Dave Beckstrom
Mar 23
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Re: Long Shoots Well about forearm length Scot McPherson, PMP CISSP MCSA Shoreline, CT Sent from my iPhone
Scot McPherson
Mar 23
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Re: Long Shoots 15 inches is about arms length Scot McPherson, PMP CISSP MCSA Shoreline, CT Sent from my iPhone
Scot McPherson
Mar 23
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Re: Long Shoots You do not normally want to have cordons that long. What kind of trellising are you doing? We're on VSP and prune cordons to about an arms length on each side
Dave Beckstrom
Mar 23
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My Tribute to Venus The Venus Table Grape finally adapts to California living http://sacramentogardening.blogspot.com/2014/03/tying-up-venus.html...
billbird2111
Mar 23
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Re: Long Shoots Hi all, I'm sure that person is either the son or wife of Lon Rombough using his old email address. Best Regards, Thomas Giannou moderator From:
Thomas Giannou
Mar 23
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Re: Long Shoots I thought Lon died a few years ago. Who are you? ... Ned Smith N 34,53,38.13 W 85,28,17.10 Near Chattanooga, TN
Ned Smith
Mar 23
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Re: Long Shoots I don't know the answer to that question. Give me some examples of how you would answer that. ... Ned Smith N 34,53,38.13 W 85,28,17.10 Near Chattanooga, TN
Ned Smith
Mar 23
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Re: Long Shoots I'm not familiar with Norton,but you can go to an organization called NAFEX on line and it is composed of grape breeders and nurseries from all over.I'm sure
Lon J. Rombough
Mar 23
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Re: Long Shoots what kind of grape is Norton? anthony
garden03048
Mar 23
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Norton http://www.missouriwinecountry.com/articles/wines/norton-true.php http://www.missouriwinecountry.com/articles/wines/norton-true.php
garden03048
Mar 22
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Re: Long Shoots I see Norton is used for wine, in which case I suppose it should be pruned like a wine grape.
garden03048
Mar 22
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Long Shoots I pruned the Norton today and found that most of the shoots were longer than 10 '. Many were longer than 15'. Should I allow that this year? Ned Smith N
Ned Smith
Mar 22
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Re: novice attempting grafting Take a look at this: http://homeguides.sfgate.com/graft-grapes-onto-rootstocks-29866.html http://homeguides.sfgate.com/graft-grapes-onto-rootstocks-29866.html
s_h_bailey
Feb 25
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novice attempting grafting Per advice given in this forum I avoided planting vinifera cuttings direct in soil, and instead planted about a dozen barefoot rootstock first. Now that the
Gregory's Groups
Feb 19
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Re: Water Quality for Grape Vines Eddie, You asked if water quality can be a critical issue? The answer is “under certain circumstances, it can be.” The next question would be, “Is
Thomas Giannou
Dec 15, 2013
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Re: Water Quality for Grape Vines Well Tom, I am not looking at a 1000 acre vineyard like the one 35 mi East of here and I also have a problem speaking French. I am looking for a small (8-10
Eddie Cope
Dec 15, 2013
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Re: Water Quality for Grape Vines Eddie, You may be thinking this is a problem, but it may not be a problem. Why don't you go visit the vineyard 35 miles east of you and TALK to them to see if
Thomas Giannou
Dec 15, 2013
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Water Quality for Grape Vines I live in a very good area for grape vines (desert of West Texas) but the worst water quality that I know of. At one time, the water quality was very good here
wb5hhz
Dec 15, 2013
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Re: New vines ordered After freeze and trunk of vine is "wrapped", should the wrapping be taken off. The freeze lasted 4 days and 6 nights but is now 70 degrees
wb5hhz
Nov 30, 2013
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Re: New vines ordered As I said, I never saw that part of the operation. Only an assumption. They also had a large winery there.   _________________________________________ Eddie
Eddie Cope
Nov 26, 2013
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