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  • jan oldenziel
    Groepsgenoten/ Trientje of Trijntje EERKENS geboren 23 februari 1837 in Nieuwe Pekela en overleden 03 mei 1876 in Nieuwe Pekela, trouwde op 22 januari 1859 in
    Message 1 of 9 , Mar 25, 2013
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      Groepsgenoten/

      Trientje of Trijntje EERKENS geboren 23 februari 1837 in Nieuwe Pekela en overleden 03 mei 1876 in Nieuwe Pekela, trouwde op 22 januari 1859 in Nieuwe Pekela met Jurjen de BOER, geboren 09 november 1834 in Nieuwe Pekela en overlijden niet bekend. Uit dit huwelijk zijn 5 kinderen geboren. Zijn echtgenote is overleden op 03-05-1976. Ik heb gevonden dat op 25 juli 1881 in de USA is aangekomen een Jurgen de Boer. Kan mij iemand vertellen of dit dezelfde Jurjen de Boer is , die gehuwd was met voornoemde Trijntje EERKENS ?
      Tevens heb ik gevonden in dezelfde scheepsmanifest het volgende:
      Erze DIJKEMA, geboren 01-09-1843 in Uithuizen, getrouwd met Geertje BOER, geboren 19-04-1844 in Usquert op 04-03-1871 in Usquert en hun twee kinderen Duurke DIJKEMA, 12-06-1876 in Musselkanaal en Jan DIJKEMA, geboren 30-04-1880 in Musselkanaal zijn op 25-07-1881 in de USA aangekomen. Dit is bestemd voor groepsgenoten, die deze personen in hun stamboom hebben.

      met een vriendelijke groet

      Jan G. Oldenziel



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    • John
      Jan, Hier de link naar de grafsteen foto van George de Boer en zien vrouw Anna . Ik denk haar familienaam is Wierstra .
      Message 2 of 9 , Mar 29, 2013
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        Jan,

        Hier de link naar de grafsteen foto van "George de Boer en zien vrouw "Anna". Ik denk haar familienaam is "Wierstra".

        http://iowagravestones.org/gs_view.php?id=626591

        mvg,

        John

        --- In groningen-genealogy@yahoogroups.com, "jan oldenziel" <j.g.oldenziel@...> wrote:
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        > Groepsgenoten/
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        > Trientje of Trijntje EERKENS geboren 23 februari 1837 in Nieuwe Pekela en overleden 03 mei 1876 in Nieuwe Pekela, trouwde op 22 januari 1859 in Nieuwe Pekela met Jurjen de BOER, geboren 09 november 1834 in Nieuwe Pekela en overlijden niet bekend. Uit dit huwelijk zijn 5 kinderen geboren. Zijn echtgenote is overleden op 03-05-1976. Ik heb gevonden dat op 25 juli 1881 in de USA is aangekomen een Jurgen de Boer. Kan mij iemand vertellen of dit dezelfde Jurjen de Boer is , die gehuwd was met voornoemde Trijntje EERKENS ?
        > Tevens heb ik gevonden in dezelfde scheepsmanifest het volgende:
        > Erze DIJKEMA, geboren 01-09-1843 in Uithuizen, getrouwd met Geertje BOER, geboren 19-04-1844 in Usquert op 04-03-1871 in Usquert en hun twee kinderen Duurke DIJKEMA, 12-06-1876 in Musselkanaal en Jan DIJKEMA, geboren 30-04-1880 in Musselkanaal zijn op 25-07-1881 in de USA aangekomen. Dit is bestemd voor groepsgenoten, die deze personen in hun stamboom hebben.
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        > met een vriendelijke groet
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        > Jan G. Oldenziel
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      • Robb Ouzts
        John,   So far, I have not found any record to suggest her surname.  I am curious what you have seen that makes you think it might be Wierstra?   groetjes,
        Message 3 of 9 , Mar 30, 2013
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          John,
           
          So far, I have not found any record to suggest her surname.  I am curious what you have seen that makes you think it might be Wierstra?
           
          groetjes,
          Robb.


          ________________________________
          From: John <frysk48@...>
          To: groningen-genealogy@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 8:05 AM
          Subject: [groningen-genealogy] Re: Jurjen de BOER


           

          Jan,

          Hier de link naar de grafsteen foto van "George de Boer en zien vrouw "Anna". Ik denk haar familienaam is "Wierstra".

          http://iowagravestones.org/gs_view.php?id=626591

          mvg,

          John

          --- In mailto:groningen-genealogy%40yahoogroups.com, "jan oldenziel" <j.g.oldenziel@...> wrote:
          >
          > Groepsgenoten/
          >
          > Trientje of Trijntje EERKENS geboren 23 februari 1837 in Nieuwe Pekela en overleden 03 mei 1876 in Nieuwe Pekela, trouwde op 22 januari 1859 in Nieuwe Pekela met Jurjen de BOER, geboren 09 november 1834 in Nieuwe Pekela en overlijden niet bekend. Uit dit huwelijk zijn 5 kinderen geboren. Zijn echtgenote is overleden op 03-05-1976. Ik heb gevonden dat op 25 juli 1881 in de USA is aangekomen een Jurgen de Boer. Kan mij iemand vertellen of dit dezelfde Jurjen de Boer is , die gehuwd was met voornoemde Trijntje EERKENS ?
          > Tevens heb ik gevonden in dezelfde scheepsmanifest het volgende:
          > Erze DIJKEMA, geboren 01-09-1843 in Uithuizen, getrouwd met Geertje BOER, geboren 19-04-1844 in Usquert op 04-03-1871 in Usquert en hun twee kinderen Duurke DIJKEMA, 12-06-1876 in Musselkanaal en Jan DIJKEMA, geboren 30-04-1880 in Musselkanaal zijn op 25-07-1881 in de USA aangekomen. Dit is bestemd voor groepsgenoten, die deze personen in hun stamboom hebben.
          >
          > met een vriendelijke groet
          >
          > Jan G. Oldenziel
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          >
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        • John
          Robb, I saw a record on Ancestry that suggested the last name of Anna was Wierstra. After some additional research I quickly ruled that surname out. Then I was
          Message 4 of 9 , Mar 30, 2013
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            Robb,

            I saw a record on Ancestry that suggested the last name of Anna was Wierstra. After some additional research I quickly ruled that surname out. Then I was able to find the ship manifest for the Jurjen de Boer, married to Anna. Right below his name I saw the name "Anna Andriesen". So, I looked for this name. Below you will see the message I sent Jan:

            "Jan,

            On 26 May 1883 arrived on the "S.S. Zaandam"; page 7 of the manifest, lines 219-220: Jurgen De Boer and Anna Andriesen.

            So, I looked in the website WieWasWie:

            https://www.wiewaswie.nl/personen-zoeken/zoeken/document/a2apersonid/198658290/srcid/13735436/oid/31

            If you look at the 1900 census, it says that Anna was born in March of 1856 and Jurjen (George) in December 1858.

            I think that this is the correct Anna!"

            Robb, you had mentioned that, per the US census, Anna's father was born in Germany and her mother in Nederland. That is confirmed by looking at the death record for this Anna's father. He was born in Bunde, Germany. Also, in the 1900 census it says that Anna was born in March of 1856. That matches the Anna I found on WieWasWie. So, I am quite confident that this is the correct Anna and that they came together to America and, it seems, were married in the US.

            mvg,

            John


            --- In groningen-genealogy@yahoogroups.com, Robb Ouzts <rawboots@...> wrote:
            >
            > John,
            >  
            > So far, I have not found any record to suggest her surname.  I am curious what you have seen that makes you think it might be Wierstra?
            >  
            > groetjes,
            > Robb.
            >
            >
            > ________________________________
            > From: John <frysk48@...>
            > To: groningen-genealogy@yahoogroups.com
            > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 8:05 AM
            > Subject: [groningen-genealogy] Re: Jurjen de BOER
            >
            >
            >  
            >
            > Jan,
            >
            > Hier de link naar de grafsteen foto van "George de Boer en zien vrouw "Anna". Ik denk haar familienaam is "Wierstra".
            >
            > http://iowagravestones.org/gs_view.php?id=626591
            >
            > mvg,
            >
            > John
            >
            > --- In mailto:groningen-genealogy%40yahoogroups.com, "jan oldenziel" <j.g.oldenziel@> wrote:
            > >
            > > Groepsgenoten/
            > >
            > > Trientje of Trijntje EERKENS geboren 23 februari 1837 in Nieuwe Pekela en overleden 03 mei 1876 in Nieuwe Pekela, trouwde op 22 januari 1859 in Nieuwe Pekela met Jurjen de BOER, geboren 09 november 1834 in Nieuwe Pekela en overlijden niet bekend. Uit dit huwelijk zijn 5 kinderen geboren. Zijn echtgenote is overleden op 03-05-1976. Ik heb gevonden dat op 25 juli 1881 in de USA is aangekomen een Jurgen de Boer. Kan mij iemand vertellen of dit dezelfde Jurjen de Boer is , die gehuwd was met voornoemde Trijntje EERKENS ?
            > > Tevens heb ik gevonden in dezelfde scheepsmanifest het volgende:
            > > Erze DIJKEMA, geboren 01-09-1843 in Uithuizen, getrouwd met Geertje BOER, geboren 19-04-1844 in Usquert op 04-03-1871 in Usquert en hun twee kinderen Duurke DIJKEMA, 12-06-1876 in Musselkanaal en Jan DIJKEMA, geboren 30-04-1880 in Musselkanaal zijn op 25-07-1881 in de USA aangekomen. Dit is bestemd voor groepsgenoten, die deze personen in hun stamboom hebben.
            > >
            > > met een vriendelijke groet
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            > > Jan G. Oldenziel
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          • John
            Robb, Also interesting is that a sister of Jurjen de Boer (Zwaantje) married a brother of Anna Andreessen (Nanno). gr, John
            Message 5 of 9 , Mar 30, 2013
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              Robb,

              Also interesting is that a sister of Jurjen de Boer (Zwaantje) married a brother of Anna Andreessen (Nanno).

              gr,

              John

              --- In groningen-genealogy@yahoogroups.com, Robb Ouzts <rawboots@...> wrote:
              >
              > John,
              >  
              > So far, I have not found any record to suggest her surname.  I am curious what you have seen that makes you think it might be Wierstra?
              >  
              > groetjes,
              > Robb.
              >
              >
              > ________________________________
              > From: John <frysk48@...>
              > To: groningen-genealogy@yahoogroups.com
              > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 8:05 AM
              > Subject: [groningen-genealogy] Re: Jurjen de BOER
              >
              >
              >  
              >
              > Jan,
              >
              > Hier de link naar de grafsteen foto van "George de Boer en zien vrouw "Anna". Ik denk haar familienaam is "Wierstra".
              >
              > http://iowagravestones.org/gs_view.php?id=626591
              >
              > mvg,
              >
              > John
              >
              > --- In mailto:groningen-genealogy%40yahoogroups.com, "jan oldenziel" <j.g.oldenziel@> wrote:
              > >
              > > Groepsgenoten/
              > >
              > > Trientje of Trijntje EERKENS geboren 23 februari 1837 in Nieuwe Pekela en overleden 03 mei 1876 in Nieuwe Pekela, trouwde op 22 januari 1859 in Nieuwe Pekela met Jurjen de BOER, geboren 09 november 1834 in Nieuwe Pekela en overlijden niet bekend. Uit dit huwelijk zijn 5 kinderen geboren. Zijn echtgenote is overleden op 03-05-1976. Ik heb gevonden dat op 25 juli 1881 in de USA is aangekomen een Jurgen de Boer. Kan mij iemand vertellen of dit dezelfde Jurjen de Boer is , die gehuwd was met voornoemde Trijntje EERKENS ?
              > > Tevens heb ik gevonden in dezelfde scheepsmanifest het volgende:
              > > Erze DIJKEMA, geboren 01-09-1843 in Uithuizen, getrouwd met Geertje BOER, geboren 19-04-1844 in Usquert op 04-03-1871 in Usquert en hun twee kinderen Duurke DIJKEMA, 12-06-1876 in Musselkanaal en Jan DIJKEMA, geboren 30-04-1880 in Musselkanaal zijn op 25-07-1881 in de USA aangekomen. Dit is bestemd voor groepsgenoten, die deze personen in hun stamboom hebben.
              > >
              > > met een vriendelijke groet
              > >
              > > Jan G. Oldenziel
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            • Robb Ouzts
              John,   I haven t had a chance to go find that record.  Was that an arrival in New York / Ellis Island?  I still haven t found a marriage for them, but I
              Message 6 of 9 , Mar 30, 2013
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                John,
                 
                I haven't had a chance to go find that record.  Was that an arrival in New York / Ellis Island?  I still haven't found a marriage for them, but I do think you are right.  I had thought I had put Nanno's (married to Zwaantje) parents and siblings together, but I had searched with mother r*m* surname ot* and in Anna's birth the mother's surname is given as Oktjes, so I had missed it.  In searching for a marriage for Anna, I discovered her brother Hindrik also came to Iowa and marries a german girl there in 1888.  The 1900 census says Hindrik came over in 1885, so I think he followed his sister, as I also think Jurjen's (George's) 2 brothers: Harm & Willem followed later their brother to Iowa.  I think Jurjen & Anna likely married right after they arrived, or maybe even on the ship over?  I am not sure the marriages for New York City are on familysearch.
                 
                Here is an updated link to the info I have on the Andreessen family: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=rawboots&id=I150502
                 
                mvg,
                Robb.


                ________________________________
                From: John <frysk48@...>
                To: groningen-genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 5:55 AM
                Subject: [groningen-genealogy] Re: Jurjen de BOER


                 

                Robb,

                I saw a record on Ancestry that suggested the last name of Anna was Wierstra. After some additional research I quickly ruled that surname out. Then I was able to find the ship manifest for the Jurjen de Boer, married to Anna. Right below his name I saw the name "Anna Andriesen". So, I looked for this name. Below you will see the message I sent Jan:

                "Jan,

                On 26 May 1883 arrived on the "S.S. Zaandam"; page 7 of the manifest, lines 219-220: Jurgen De Boer and Anna Andriesen.

                So, I looked in the website WieWasWie:

                https://www.wiewaswie.nl/personen-zoeken/zoeken/document/a2apersonid/198658290/srcid/13735436/oid/31

                If you look at the 1900 census, it says that Anna was born in March of 1856 and Jurjen (George) in December 1858.

                I think that this is the correct Anna!"

                Robb, you had mentioned that, per the US census, Anna's father was born in Germany and her mother in Nederland. That is confirmed by looking at the death record for this Anna's father. He was born in Bunde, Germany. Also, in the 1900 census it says that Anna was born in March of 1856. That matches the Anna I found on WieWasWie. So, I am quite confident that this is the correct Anna and that they came together to America and, it seems, were married in the US.

                mvg,

                John

                --- In mailto:groningen-genealogy%40yahoogroups.com, Robb Ouzts <rawboots@...> wrote:
                >
                > John,
                >  
                > So far, I have not found any record to suggest her surname.  I am curious what you have seen that makes you think it might be Wierstra?
                >  
                > groetjes,
                > Robb.
                >
                >
                > ________________________________
                > From: John <frysk48@...>
                > To: mailto:groningen-genealogy%40yahoogroups.com
                > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 8:05 AM
                > Subject: [groningen-genealogy] Re: Jurjen de BOER
                >
                >
                >  
                >
                > Jan,
                >
                > Hier de link naar de grafsteen foto van "George de Boer en zien vrouw "Anna". Ik denk haar familienaam is "Wierstra".
                >
                > http://iowagravestones.org/gs_view.php?id=626591
                >
                > mvg,
                >
                > John
                >
                > --- In mailto:groningen-genealogy%40yahoogroups.com, "jan oldenziel" <j.g.oldenziel@> wrote:
                > >
                > > Groepsgenoten/
                > >
                > > Trientje of Trijntje EERKENS geboren 23 februari 1837 in Nieuwe Pekela en overleden 03 mei 1876 in Nieuwe Pekela, trouwde op 22 januari 1859 in Nieuwe Pekela met Jurjen de BOER, geboren 09 november 1834 in Nieuwe Pekela en overlijden niet bekend. Uit dit huwelijk zijn 5 kinderen geboren. Zijn echtgenote is overleden op 03-05-1976. Ik heb gevonden dat op 25 juli 1881 in de USA is aangekomen een Jurgen de Boer. Kan mij iemand vertellen of dit dezelfde Jurjen de Boer is , die gehuwd was met voornoemde Trijntje EERKENS ?
                > > Tevens heb ik gevonden in dezelfde scheepsmanifest het volgende:
                > > Erze DIJKEMA, geboren 01-09-1843 in Uithuizen, getrouwd met Geertje BOER, geboren 19-04-1844 in Usquert op 04-03-1871 in Usquert en hun twee kinderen Duurke DIJKEMA, 12-06-1876 in Musselkanaal en Jan DIJKEMA, geboren 30-04-1880 in Musselkanaal zijn op 25-07-1881 in de USA aangekomen. Dit is bestemd voor groepsgenoten, die deze personen in hun stamboom hebben.
                > >
                > > met een vriendelijke groet
                > >
                > > Jan G. Oldenziel
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                > >
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              • jan oldenziel
                Robb, In the meantime we have found more information about Jurjen or George DE BOER and his Anna. Anna was born 25 Mar 1856 in Blijham, gemeente Wedde , is a
                Message 7 of 9 , Mar 30, 2013
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                  Robb,

                  In the meantime we have found more information about Jurjen or George DE BOER and his Anna. Anna was born 25 Mar 1856 in Blijham, gemeente Wedde , is a daugther of Nanno ANDREESSEN and Remke OTTJES.
                  Jurjen and Anna arrived 26 May 1883 per SS “Zaandam” in New York. Hindrik or Henry ANDREESSEN came also to Iowa and married Eskie FOELRICHS from Germany in 1888.

                  mvrgr

                  Jan

                  From: Robb Ouzts
                  Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 7:26 PM
                  To: groningen-genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: Re: [groningen-genealogy] Re: Jurjen de BOER


                  John,

                  I haven't had a chance to go find that record. Was that an arrival in New York / Ellis Island? I still haven't found a marriage for them, but I do think you are right. I had thought I had put Nanno's (married to Zwaantje) parents and siblings together, but I had searched with mother r*m* surname ot* and in Anna's birth the mother's surname is given as Oktjes, so I had missed it. In searching for a marriage for Anna, I discovered her brother Hindrik also came to Iowa and marries a german girl there in 1888. The 1900 census says Hindrik came over in 1885, so I think he followed his sister, as I also think Jurjen's (George's) 2 brothers: Harm & Willem followed later their brother to Iowa. I think Jurjen & Anna likely married right after they arrived, or maybe even on the ship over? I am not sure the marriages for New York City are on familysearch.

                  Here is an updated link to the info I have on the Andreessen family: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=rawboots&id=I150502

                  mvg,
                  Robb.


                  ________________________________
                  From: John <mailto:frysk48%40yahoo.com>
                  To: mailto:groningen-genealogy%40yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 5:55 AM
                  Subject: [groningen-genealogy] Re: Jurjen de BOER




                  Robb,

                  I saw a record on Ancestry that suggested the last name of Anna was Wierstra. After some additional research I quickly ruled that surname out. Then I was able to find the ship manifest for the Jurjen de Boer, married to Anna. Right below his name I saw the name "Anna Andriesen". So, I looked for this name. Below you will see the message I sent Jan:

                  "Jan,

                  On 26 May 1883 arrived on the "S.S. Zaandam"; page 7 of the manifest, lines 219-220: Jurgen De Boer and Anna Andriesen.

                  So, I looked in the website WieWasWie:

                  https://www.wiewaswie.nl/personen-zoeken/zoeken/document/a2apersonid/198658290/srcid/13735436/oid/31

                  If you look at the 1900 census, it says that Anna was born in March of 1856 and Jurjen (George) in December 1858.

                  I think that this is the correct Anna!"

                  Robb, you had mentioned that, per the US census, Anna's father was born in Germany and her mother in Nederland. That is confirmed by looking at the death record for this Anna's father. He was born in Bunde, Germany. Also, in the 1900 census it says that Anna was born in March of 1856. That matches the Anna I found on WieWasWie. So, I am quite confident that this is the correct Anna and that they came together to America and, it seems, were married in the US.

                  mvg,

                  John

                  --- In mailto:groningen-genealogy%40yahoogroups.com, Robb Ouzts <rawboots@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > John,
                  > Â
                  > So far, I have not found any record to suggest her surname. I am curious what you have seen that makes you think it might be Wierstra?
                  > Â
                  > groetjes,
                  > Robb.
                  >
                  >
                  > ________________________________
                  > From: John <frysk48@...>
                  > To: mailto:groningen-genealogy%40yahoogroups.com
                  > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 8:05 AM
                  > Subject: [groningen-genealogy] Re: Jurjen de BOER
                  >
                  >
                  > Â
                  >
                  > Jan,
                  >
                  > Hier de link naar de grafsteen foto van "George de Boer en zien vrouw "Anna". Ik denk haar familienaam is "Wierstra".
                  >
                  > http://iowagravestones.org/gs_view.php?id=626591
                  >
                  > mvg,
                  >
                  > John
                  >
                  > --- In mailto:groningen-genealogy%40yahoogroups.com, "jan oldenziel" <j.g.oldenziel@> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > Groepsgenoten/
                  > >
                  > > Trientje of Trijntje EERKENS geboren 23 februari 1837 in Nieuwe Pekela en overleden 03 mei 1876 in Nieuwe Pekela, trouwde op 22 januari 1859 in Nieuwe Pekela met Jurjen de BOER, geboren 09 november 1834 in Nieuwe Pekela en overlijden niet bekend. Uit dit huwelijk zijn 5 kinderen geboren. Zijn echtgenote is overleden op 03-05-1976. Ik heb gevonden dat op 25 juli 1881 in de USA is aangekomen een Jurgen de Boer. Kan mij iemand vertellen of dit dezelfde Jurjen de Boer is , die gehuwd was met voornoemde Trijntje EERKENS ?
                  > > Tevens heb ik gevonden in dezelfde scheepsmanifest het volgende:
                  > > Erze DIJKEMA, geboren 01-09-1843 in Uithuizen, getrouwd met Geertje BOER, geboren 19-04-1844 in Usquert op 04-03-1871 in Usquert en hun twee kinderen Duurke DIJKEMA, 12-06-1876 in Musselkanaal en Jan DIJKEMA, geboren 30-04-1880 in Musselkanaal zijn op 25-07-1881 in de USA aangekomen. Dit is bestemd voor groepsgenoten, die deze personen in hun stamboom hebben.
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                  > > met een vriendelijke groet
                  > >
                  > > Jan G. Oldenziel
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                  > >
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                • John
                  Hi Robb, Yes, the arrival was at New York. But before Ellis Island opened in 1892 people arrived in a place in New York called Castle Garden where from
                  Message 8 of 9 , Mar 31, 2013
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                    Hi Robb,

                    Yes, the arrival was at New York. But before Ellis Island opened in 1892 people arrived in a place in New York called Castle Garden where from 1820-1892 passengers arrived: http://www.castlegarden.org/

                    So, on Ancestry you can search under the information I gave Jan: 26 May 1883 arrived on the "S.S. Zaandam"; page 7 of the manifest, lines 219-220; Jurgen De Boer and Anna Andriesen.

                    I also saw the rest of the Andreessen family and de Boer family that came to the US. There were also Andreessen family from Germany that lived in Iowa which are probably cousins or some sort of relatives to Anna and her brother Hindrik. You can also find Harm and Willem's graves online.

                    I am also still looking for the marriage of Jurgen and Anna. They may have been married on the ship but I think that is unlikely. While I have found times in ship manifests that a woman's maiden name is used it is not often. They usually used the married name with the woman. If they were married on the ship she probably would have been listed as Anna Deboer. The manifest was turned in to the authorities in New York where any changes made during the trip would have been notated by the captain on arrival. You can see that when there was a death at sea. But, that is just my opinion.

                    Further investigation into Grand Rapids, Michigan marriages may find them married there.

                    greetings!

                    John

                    --- In groningen-genealogy@yahoogroups.com, Robb Ouzts <rawboots@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > John,
                    >  
                    > I haven't had a chance to go find that record.  Was that an arrival in New York / Ellis Island?  I still haven't found a marriage for them, but I do think you are right.  I had thought I had put Nanno's (married to Zwaantje) parents and siblings together, but I had searched with mother r*m* surname ot* and in Anna's birth the mother's surname is given as Oktjes, so I had missed it.  In searching for a marriage for Anna, I discovered her brother Hindrik also came to Iowa and marries a german girl there in 1888.  The 1900 census says Hindrik came over in 1885, so I think he followed his sister, as I also think Jurjen's (George's) 2 brothers: Harm & Willem followed later their brother to Iowa.  I think Jurjen & Anna likely married right after they arrived, or maybe even on the ship over?  I am not sure the marriages for New York City are on familysearch.
                    >  
                    > Here is an updated link to the info I have on the Andreessen family: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=rawboots&id=I150502
                    >  
                    > mvg,
                    > Robb.
                    >
                    >
                    > ________________________________
                    > From: John <frysk48@...>
                    > To: groningen-genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                    > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 5:55 AM
                    > Subject: [groningen-genealogy] Re: Jurjen de BOER
                    >
                    >
                    >  
                    >
                    > Robb,
                    >
                    > I saw a record on Ancestry that suggested the last name of Anna was Wierstra. After some additional research I quickly ruled that surname out. Then I was able to find the ship manifest for the Jurjen de Boer, married to Anna. Right below his name I saw the name "Anna Andriesen". So, I looked for this name. Below you will see the message I sent Jan:
                    >
                    > "Jan,
                    >
                    > On 26 May 1883 arrived on the "S.S. Zaandam"; page 7 of the manifest, lines 219-220: Jurgen De Boer and Anna Andriesen.
                    >
                    > So, I looked in the website WieWasWie:
                    >
                    > https://www.wiewaswie.nl/personen-zoeken/zoeken/document/a2apersonid/198658290/srcid/13735436/oid/31
                    >
                    > If you look at the 1900 census, it says that Anna was born in March of 1856 and Jurjen (George) in December 1858.
                    >
                    > I think that this is the correct Anna!"
                    >
                    > Robb, you had mentioned that, per the US census, Anna's father was born in Germany and her mother in Nederland. That is confirmed by looking at the death record for this Anna's father. He was born in Bunde, Germany. Also, in the 1900 census it says that Anna was born in March of 1856. That matches the Anna I found on WieWasWie. So, I am quite confident that this is the correct Anna and that they came together to America and, it seems, were married in the US.
                    >
                    > mvg,
                    >
                    > John
                    >
                    > --- In mailto:groningen-genealogy%40yahoogroups.com, Robb Ouzts <rawboots@> wrote:
                    > >
                    > > John,
                    > >  
                    > > So far, I have not found any record to suggest her surname.  I am curious what you have seen that makes you think it might be Wierstra?
                    > >  
                    > > groetjes,
                    > > Robb.
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > ________________________________
                    > > From: John <frysk48@>
                    > > To: mailto:groningen-genealogy%40yahoogroups.com
                    > > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 8:05 AM
                    > > Subject: [groningen-genealogy] Re: Jurjen de BOER
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >  
                    > >
                    > > Jan,
                    > >
                    > > Hier de link naar de grafsteen foto van "George de Boer en zien vrouw "Anna". Ik denk haar familienaam is "Wierstra".
                    > >
                    > > http://iowagravestones.org/gs_view.php?id=626591
                    > >
                    > > mvg,
                    > >
                    > > John
                    > >
                    > > --- In mailto:groningen-genealogy%40yahoogroups.com, "jan oldenziel" <j.g.oldenziel@> wrote:
                    > > >
                    > > > Groepsgenoten/
                    > > >
                    > > > Trientje of Trijntje EERKENS geboren 23 februari 1837 in Nieuwe Pekela en overleden 03 mei 1876 in Nieuwe Pekela, trouwde op 22 januari 1859 in Nieuwe Pekela met Jurjen de BOER, geboren 09 november 1834 in Nieuwe Pekela en overlijden niet bekend. Uit dit huwelijk zijn 5 kinderen geboren. Zijn echtgenote is overleden op 03-05-1976. Ik heb gevonden dat op 25 juli 1881 in de USA is aangekomen een Jurgen de Boer. Kan mij iemand vertellen of dit dezelfde Jurjen de Boer is , die gehuwd was met voornoemde Trijntje EERKENS ?
                    > > > Tevens heb ik gevonden in dezelfde scheepsmanifest het volgende:
                    > > > Erze DIJKEMA, geboren 01-09-1843 in Uithuizen, getrouwd met Geertje BOER, geboren 19-04-1844 in Usquert op 04-03-1871 in Usquert en hun twee kinderen Duurke DIJKEMA, 12-06-1876 in Musselkanaal en Jan DIJKEMA, geboren 30-04-1880 in Musselkanaal zijn op 25-07-1881 in de USA aangekomen. Dit is bestemd voor groepsgenoten, die deze personen in hun stamboom hebben.
                    > > >
                    > > > met een vriendelijke groet
                    > > >
                    > > > Jan G. Oldenziel
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                    > > >
                    > >
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                  • Robb Ouzts
                    John,   Thank you.  You are right.  I don t use the immigrations records as often as I should, so I showed my inexperience with the Ellis Island/ Castle
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                      John,
                       
                      Thank you.  You are right.  I don't use the immigrations records as often as I should, so I showed my inexperience with the Ellis Island/ Castle Garden.  I had thought of Michigan, but most of those records are on familysearch, as well as Chicago (Cook county), so I am leaning towards these are not locations where the marriages would have taken place, then again, may the record contains a spelling that isn't coming up in my searches, or the extraction created such a spelling.  I agree on your thought of married at sea, but think it still might be a possibility.  In Dutch records the woman keeps her family name, rather than take her husbands, so keeping it as they got off the ship, might have been from this practice. As for the German Andreessen's, I have found a Hinrich Andreessen born 1826 married with Diertje Jansen, who seem to be the parents of the others.  I think he might be a brother of the Anna & Hindrik who married into the de Boer
                      family's father, so their uncle, but I am not sure of that yet.  It would make sense though that they might follow an uncle to America, even tho they came from the Netherlands, while the uncle came from Germany.  The de Boer's are  my cousins though, not the Andreessen's so for now, I will probably not try to do much more to confirm the connection to the German family.  Thanks again, for helping us figure out what Anna's surname was.
                       
                      Greetings, Robb. 

                      ________________________________
                      From: John <frysk48@...>
                      To: groningen-genealogy@yahoogroups.com
                      Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 9:45 AM
                      Subject: [groningen-genealogy] Re: Jurjen de BOER


                       

                      Hi Robb,

                      Yes, the arrival was at New York. But before Ellis Island opened in 1892 people arrived in a place in New York called Castle Garden where from 1820-1892 passengers arrived: http://www.castlegarden.org/

                      So, on Ancestry you can search under the information I gave Jan: 26 May 1883 arrived on the "S.S. Zaandam"; page 7 of the manifest, lines 219-220; Jurgen De Boer and Anna Andriesen.

                      I also saw the rest of the Andreessen family and de Boer family that came to the US. There were also Andreessen family from Germany that lived in Iowa which are probably cousins or some sort of relatives to Anna and her brother Hindrik. You can also find Harm and Willem's graves online.

                      I am also still looking for the marriage of Jurgen and Anna. They may have been married on the ship but I think that is unlikely. While I have found times in ship manifests that a woman's maiden name is used it is not often. They usually used the married name with the woman. If they were married on the ship she probably would have been listed as Anna Deboer. The manifest was turned in to the authorities in New York where any changes made during the trip would have been notated by the captain on arrival. You can see that when there was a death at sea. But, that is just my opinion.

                      Further investigation into Grand Rapids, Michigan marriages may find them married there.

                      greetings!

                      John

                      --- In mailto:groningen-genealogy%40yahoogroups.com, Robb Ouzts <rawboots@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > John,
                      >  
                      > I haven't had a chance to go find that record.  Was that an arrival in New York / Ellis Island?  I still haven't found a marriage for them, but I do think you are right.  I had thought I had put Nanno's (married to Zwaantje) parents and siblings together, but I had searched with mother r*m* surname ot* and in Anna's birth the mother's surname is given as Oktjes, so I had missed it.  In searching for a marriage for Anna, I discovered her brother Hindrik also came to Iowa and marries a german girl there in 1888.  The 1900 census says Hindrik came over in 1885, so I think he followed his sister, as I also think Jurjen's (George's) 2 brothers: Harm & Willem followed later their brother to Iowa.  I think Jurjen & Anna likely married right after they arrived, or maybe even on the ship over?  I am not sure the marriages for New York City are on familysearch.
                      >  
                      > Here is an updated link to the info I have on the Andreessen family: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=rawboots&id=I150502
                      >  
                      > mvg,
                      > Robb.
                      >
                      >
                      > ________________________________
                      > From: John <frysk48@...>
                      > To: mailto:groningen-genealogy%40yahoogroups.com
                      > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 5:55 AM
                      > Subject: [groningen-genealogy] Re: Jurjen de BOER
                      >
                      >
                      >  
                      >
                      > Robb,
                      >
                      > I saw a record on Ancestry that suggested the last name of Anna was Wierstra. After some additional research I quickly ruled that surname out. Then I was able to find the ship manifest for the Jurjen de Boer, married to Anna. Right below his name I saw the name "Anna Andriesen". So, I looked for this name. Below you will see the message I sent Jan:
                      >
                      > "Jan,
                      >
                      > On 26 May 1883 arrived on the "S.S. Zaandam"; page 7 of the manifest, lines 219-220: Jurgen De Boer and Anna Andriesen.
                      >
                      > So, I looked in the website WieWasWie:
                      >
                      > https://www.wiewaswie.nl/personen-zoeken/zoeken/document/a2apersonid/198658290/srcid/13735436/oid/31
                      >
                      > If you look at the 1900 census, it says that Anna was born in March of 1856 and Jurjen (George) in December 1858.
                      >
                      > I think that this is the correct Anna!"
                      >
                      > Robb, you had mentioned that, per the US census, Anna's father was born in Germany and her mother in Nederland. That is confirmed by looking at the death record for this Anna's father. He was born in Bunde, Germany. Also, in the 1900 census it says that Anna was born in March of 1856. That matches the Anna I found on WieWasWie. So, I am quite confident that this is the correct Anna and that they came together to America and, it seems, were married in the US.
                      >
                      > mvg,
                      >
                      > John
                      >
                      > --- In mailto:groningen-genealogy%40yahoogroups.com, Robb Ouzts <rawboots@> wrote:
                      > >
                      > > John,
                      > >  
                      > > So far, I have not found any record to suggest her surname.  I am curious what you have seen that makes you think it might be Wierstra?
                      > >  
                      > > groetjes,
                      > > Robb.
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > ________________________________
                      > > From: John <frysk48@>
                      > > To: mailto:groningen-genealogy%40yahoogroups.com
                      > > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 8:05 AM
                      > > Subject: [groningen-genealogy] Re: Jurjen de BOER
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >  
                      > >
                      > > Jan,
                      > >
                      > > Hier de link naar de grafsteen foto van "George de Boer en zien vrouw "Anna". Ik denk haar familienaam is "Wierstra".
                      > >
                      > > http://iowagravestones.org/gs_view.php?id=626591
                      > >
                      > > mvg,
                      > >
                      > > John
                      > >
                      > > --- In mailto:groningen-genealogy%40yahoogroups.com, "jan oldenziel" <j.g.oldenziel@> wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > > Groepsgenoten/
                      > > >
                      > > > Trientje of Trijntje EERKENS geboren 23 februari 1837 in Nieuwe Pekela en overleden 03 mei 1876 in Nieuwe Pekela, trouwde op 22 januari 1859 in Nieuwe Pekela met Jurjen de BOER, geboren 09 november 1834 in Nieuwe Pekela en overlijden niet bekend. Uit dit huwelijk zijn 5 kinderen geboren. Zijn echtgenote is overleden op 03-05-1976. Ik heb gevonden dat op 25 juli 1881 in de USA is aangekomen een Jurgen de Boer. Kan mij iemand vertellen of dit dezelfde Jurjen de Boer is , die gehuwd was met voornoemde Trijntje EERKENS ?
                      > > > Tevens heb ik gevonden in dezelfde scheepsmanifest het volgende:
                      > > > Erze DIJKEMA, geboren 01-09-1843 in Uithuizen, getrouwd met Geertje BOER, geboren 19-04-1844 in Usquert op 04-03-1871 in Usquert en hun twee kinderen Duurke DIJKEMA, 12-06-1876 in Musselkanaal en Jan DIJKEMA, geboren 30-04-1880 in Musselkanaal zijn op 25-07-1881 in de USA aangekomen. Dit is bestemd voor groepsgenoten, die deze personen in hun stamboom hebben.
                      > > >
                      > > > met een vriendelijke groet
                      > > >
                      > > > Jan G. Oldenziel
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                      > > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
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