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  • Barry Mason
    Please note correction below. TfL s Stephen Mayers wasn t emailing from TfL...... Barry (ed: O yes he was..). ... Subject: RE: TfL says Thames Gateway
    Message 1 of 1 , Jul 31, 2007
      Please note correction below.

      TfL's Stephen Mayers wasn't emailing from TfL......



      Barry
      (ed: O yes he was..).




      -------- Original Message --------
      Subject: RE: TfL says Thames Gateway Bridge not dead yet
      Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:19:52 +0100
      From: Mayers Stephen <StephenMayers@...>
      To: Barry Mason <masonb@...>



      Barry, it wasn't TfL who put that message up on your e group. It was me. TfL is not a member of Southwark Cyclists is it? So would not have access to the e group. Please could you put another message out to that effect. TfL might not appreceate words being put into its mouth especially as neither TfL nor the person who posted that entry said what you said was said.

      Stephen Mayers.
      4 Constable Walk,
      London SE21 7LX.

      Phone: 020 8299 6538 (h) 0207 126 4595 (w)
      Fax: 020 7126 4275
      Email: stephenmayers@...




      -----Original Message-----
      From: Barry Mason [mailto:masonb@...]
      Sent: 30 July 2007 20:28
      To: lcc-issues@yahoogroups.com
      Cc: Mayers Stephen; Jenny Jones; Southwark Cyclists; Lewisham Cyclists; greenwich cyclists
      Subject: TfL says Thames Gateway Bridge not dead yet


      Info.

      He's also saying that we've got more money for lawyers than you pleb
      scruffs......so there.

      It's not about money.....it's about the planet. (ed: steady on).

      Barry
      Southwark Cyclists
      07905 889 005

      -------- Original Message --------
      Subject: Thames Gateway Bridge
      Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 08:43:06 +0100
      From: Mayers Stephen <StephenMayers@...>
      To: Barry Mason <masonb@...>, greenwich cyclists
      <greenwichcyclists@yahoogroups.com>
      CC: Lewisham Cyclists <lewishamcyclists@yahoogroups.com>, Southwark
      Cyclists <southwarkcyclists@yahoogroups.com>



      I think you will find that the Thames Gateway Bridge is far from fatally
      wounded. The decision is put off until further evidence is considered at
      a re-opened inquiry. Those who advocate the building of the bridge will
      probably be confident of succussfully addressing the concerns raised in
      the inspector?s report that led to the postponement decision. So a
      positive (depending on your point of view) decision in due course is not
      ruled out.
      The various interested bodies will need to divert more funds for further
      work on the inquiry.
      //
      /Stephen Mayers.
      /
      -----Original Message-----
      *From:* southwarkcyclists@yahoogroups.com
      [mailto:southwarkcyclists@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Barry Mason
      *Sent:* 28 July 2007 11:46
      *To:* greenwich cyclists
      *Cc:* Lewisham Cyclists; Southwark Cyclists
      *Subject:* [S.Cyclists] Red Bull Greenwich loses Thames Gateway Bridge

      This was buried away.

      Oh dear. First they lose the super-casino....now the Government's
      Public Local Inquiry throws out the Thames Gateway Bridge scheme.

      It's now quite dead and buried yet...see below.....but it's probably
      fatally wounded.

      All the more money then for walking/cycling bridges (and the Thames
      Path
      missing link east of the Flood Barrier?!) in what looks to be a really
      important and rare decision that chucks out a major road scheme.

      Good. The Woolwich Ferry lives on.

      Barry
      07905 889 005

      Thursday 2 August: Afterworker. 6.30pm Southwark Needle: Stratford
      Olympic sites.
      Sunday 5 August: Locks Docks. 9am Southwark Needle. 10am Cutty Sark
      Gardens.

      -------- Original Message --------
      Subject: [lcc-issues] LCC helps stop Thames Gateway Bridge
      Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:58:51 +0100
      From: R Smyth <ralph@...
      <mailto:ralph%40citycyclists.org.uk>>
      Reply-To: lcc-issues@yahoogroups.com
      <mailto:lcc-issues%40yahoogroups.com>
      Organization: City Cyclists
      To:

      [can anyone get this news onto the LCC website etc? Guardian
      report at the end...]

      Fantastic news: the six lane Thames Gateway Bridge has been
      rejected following a public inquiry, which finished on 23
      May 2006. It is suspected that the Government is trying to
      bury the news by publishing it today at the end of the
      Parliamentary session after sitting on the decision since
      last October.

      While environmental groups such as Friends of the
      Earth and Transport 2000 put the public transport and
      environmental arguments and local residents their concerns
      of motor traffic generation, LCC used its expertise to work
      with them to highlight the issues affecting what TfL
      dismissed as the "slow modes" - cycling and walking - and
      helped mount a very strong and comprehensive case. All
      were helped by support from Greens on the London Assembly
      who used their budget veto to secure funding for experts to
      contest TfL's technical evidence.

      LCC was the only objector to be represented by a barrister
      and had the support of national cyclists organisation CTC
      plus the latest research from Sustrans. LCC had opposed
      the TGB's predecessor in 1992 which would have also cut
      through Oxleas Wood but this was the first time LCC
      appeared at a public inquiry.

      TfL's claims that the bridge would "maximise walking and
      cycling" and included a "dedicated cycleway" were soundly
      rubbished by showing that it would result in a reduction in
      journeys walked or cycling and that the cycleway was in
      fact an obstacle course shared with pedestrians that had a
      maximum speed of 10mph.

      The full inspector's report should be out shortly and could
      prove useful to campaigners, particularly cycling groups,
      fighting road schemes across the country. In particular
      TfL's plans for a road tunnel at Silvertown is now likely
      to hit the buffers. All inquiry documents are at:
      www.persona.uk.com/thamesgateway

      The only problem is that Hazel Blears plans to reopen the
      public inquiry. This will be an uphill struggle given
      increasing awareness of climate change by the general public
      and planning guidelines not to mention the fact that one of
      the local councils has gone from Labour to Tory and now
      opposes the bridge.

      It is very rare that major road schemes are rejected in
      inquiries and shows the Government's contempt for due
      process that it is trying to press it through a second
      time. Another inquiry would cost millions, which would be
      better spent on attractive bridges for cyclists and
      pedestrians only, such as the winking Millenium Bridge in
      Gateshead.

      Regards

      Ralph

      ---
      Blears reopens Thames Gateway bridge inquiry

      John Vidal, environment editor
      Thursday July 26, 2007
      Guardian Unlimited


      The government is to reopen a public inquiry into the £500m
      Thames Gateway bridge after an inspector recommended that
      it should not be built.

      Business groups and the London mayor, Ken Livingstone, said
      the proposed six-lane, motorway-scale bridge over the
      Thames was essential for the regeneration of east London
      and the development of the Thames Gateway region.
      But the scheme was fiercely opposed during a year-long
      public inquiry by environment groups and local residents,
      who showed that it would add to traffic and pollution in
      some of Britain's poorest boroughs.

      Hazel Blears, the secretary of state for communities and
      local government, said she wanted the new inquiry to
      investigate further whether the bridge would lead to
      regeneration, and its potential impact on pollution.
      The unexpected decision - one of the few in the past 20
      years in which a major road scheme has not immediately been
      accepted - was greeted with dismay by Mr Livingstone.
      "Any delay to the Thames Gateway bridge is a blow to east
      London, and south-east London in particular," he said.
      "The reopening of the public inquiry will delay bringing the
      benefits of the Thames Gateway bridge to an area that
      sorely needs them. This new crossing is crucial to
      supporting plans for an extra 160,000 houses in the Thames
      Gateway region and up to 42,000 additional jobs in the area
      as whole."

      But the Green party and environment groups said the
      government should have rejected the scheme.
      "We're extremely disappointed that the government did not
      follow the inspector's advice," said Jenny Bates, the
      Friends of the Earth London campaigns coordinator.
      "The bridge would bring few benefits to the local people and
      lead to more traffic, more noise and air pollution and an
      increase in climate-changing emissions. Better ways must
      found to regenerate the local area."

      Darren Johnson, a Green party member of the London assembly,
      said: "This is good news for the environment and for the
      people of east London. Backing this road bridge has been
      the single biggest mistake of the Livingstone mayoralty. He
      can't claim that climate change is his number one priority
      and then build a traffic-generating road like this."
      The inspector was concerned that 17m vehicles a year would
      use the bridge, and that by 2016 levels of traffic would
      grow in four local boroughs by between 10% and 36%.
      Since the inquiry closed, the government has increased its
      commitment to countering climate-changing emissions .
      Transport for London, the main backer of the bridge scheme,
      insisted it was a "local road" that would economically
      benefit the surrounding boroughs.



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