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Re: Votes don't have all 435/441 House members

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  • stoub
    Okey-doke. Thanks, Derek! --SET
    Message 1 of 5 , Dec 17, 2009
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      Okey-doke. Thanks, Derek!
      --SET


      --- In govtrack@yahoogroups.com, Derek Willis <dwillis@...> wrote:
      >
      > Essentially, because of custom and tradition. The others' discretion
      > in voting is not a recognized tradition as is the Speaker. Data-wise,
      > it's not a hard problem to solve; if there's no vote displayed, she
      > didn't vote.
      >
      >
      >
      > On Dec 17, 2009, at 6:19 PM, "stoub" <govtrack@...> wrote:
      >
      > > Understood, but why isn't this categorized as "Not Voting" along
      > > with the others that haven't voted?
      > >
      > > (And FYI that my math was wrong on Roll 968; Pelosi is the only one
      > > that isn't reported in both cases.
      > > --SET
      > >
      > > --- In govtrack@yahoogroups.com, Derek Willis <dwillis@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > The speaker of the house votes at his or her discretion. When Pelosi
      > > > does not vote, the house simply ignores it. She typically votes only
      > > > on questions of procedural or political significance.
      > > >
      > > > Derek
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > On Dec 17, 2009, at 5:08 PM, "stoub" <govtrack@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > > I was looking at a few recent votes and didn't see Pelosi listed
      > > > > anywhere, even in the Not Voting category.
      > > > >
      > > > > The issue seems to be upstream: I can't find Pelosi on the Clerk's
      > > > > site:
      > > > >
      > > > > http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll966.xml
      > > > > http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2009-966
      > > > > Ayes + Noes + NV adds up to 440 which makes sense.
      > > > >
      > > > > On this one, Ayes + Noes + NV adds up to only 433.
      > > > > http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll968.xml
      > > > > http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2009-968
      > > > >
      > > > > I was assuming that:
      > > > > 1. There are no current House vacancies
      > > > > 2. All votes should add up to either 435 (if delegates from DC,
      > > > > Guam, etc. don't vote) or 441 (if the delegates from DC, Guam,
      > > etc.
      > > > > do vote). I can't think of any procedural reason why Pelosi
      > > wouldn't
      > > > > be listed as Not Voting.
      > > > >
      > > > > Any ideas on where to head next in understanding (and resolving)
      > > > > this issue?
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > >
      > >
      > >
      >
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