- I have "argued" about this point with my friends several times.From my point
of view, according to the number of words inherited from east germanic, it
is very unlikely the employ of gothic by goths in Hispania, becasuse most of
germanic words in nowadays spanish is limited to only a handful examples (as
"guerra" (written "Werra" in the ancient sources , meaning "war") or
"bosque" meaning "forest", both of them nearby the same as the italian words
for war, "guerra", and forest,"bosco"). On the other hand, the lack of
written sources in gothic can't be used to deny the employ of gothic among
goths in hispania, because the written sources from this period are closely
related to the highest elites of society, whose focus was the roman (and
then bizantine) culture and the employ of Latin. I agree with the idea that
gothic vanished in a few generations, but I think that it must endured for
some time in rural areas far from the cities.
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below. The map shows dense concentrations of Germanic place-names in
the far northwest, i.e. the Swabisk area, a local concentration in
northern Catalonia, and few elsewhere. I think this shows that they
are better at identifying West-Germanic place-names than East-
Germanic ones, and nothing else.
On Jul 18, 2007, at 4:39 PM, Rydwlf wrote:
> Hi there,
> I have the feeling that the issue of Spanish toponimes of germanic
> origin has been debated some time in the past in this same list. I
> am sure about the germanic (specially gothic) origin of some
> settlements, mostly villages (that still retain the name). There is
> a high number of examples.
> I have done some research with Google but all the information I
> find is quite fragmentary. Anyway if you're interested I can try to
> give a list of webpages dealing with the issue (and mentioning
> quite a lot of examples), and some book references.
> Figure 15 in the following page can give a rough idea of the
> distribution of toponimes of germanic origin in Iberia.
> Unfortunately I cannot quote the sources, but the author probably
> does so in some page of his work (sorry but I'm short of time today).
> Hope it helps,
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