Re: New file uploaded to gothic-l (Christmas and Yule)
- Here's some chaotic notes I made on the subject of reconstructing the
Gothic calendar a couple of years ago after a discussion here. The
page displays best in Internet Explorer for some reason.
There are some interesting month names in Danish, Norwegian and
Swedish we ought to look at too, e.g. Danish Glugmånad, Blide-, Tor-,
Fare-, Maj-, Høj-, Orme-, Høst-, Fiske-, Sæde-, Slagte-, Jule-. Do
you have a list of Swedish months, Ingemar? Ignore the speculations
based on the supposed *Naubaimbair, obviously...
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "ualarauans" <ualarauans@...> wrote:
> --- In email@example.com, "llama_nom" <600cell@> wrote:
> > Many thanks for this Arthur. I read it ages ago, but had
> > forgotten that detail about the phantom status of *Naubaimbair!
> > http://www.modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~david/index.html
> > http://www.modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~david/report.pdf
> > The relevant section is on p. 54. Which leaves us with just 'fruma
> > jiuleis' as the name of the month, and no way of knowing whether
> > illegible word was a synonym (*Naubaimbair or otherwise) or
> > else entirely.
> But if Naubaimbair is a fancy, what's worth our reconstruction of
> the Gothic month names based on Latin? If only fruma jiuleis is
> attested, then one could logically suppose that all other Gothic
> month names were also Germanic. Afaik there were several Calender
> traditions in Germania, with their own month names. Which of them
> are we to follow? E.g. OHG and OE give only one match which could
> speak for Go. Austramenoþs "April".
> > Re. alternative names, I just came across the following Old West
> > and Old Swedish proposals: Dróttins burðar tíð; gudz födzlo hötidh
> > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julfest ], neither of which caught on.
> > So maybe we could have: 'fraujins mel gabaurþais', or similar.
> Bit of
> > a mouthful, I know... Thinks: does the final vowel in
> Finnish 'juhla'
> > and 'joula' imply a specifically East Germanic origin for the
> > loanword, as opposed to Proto Germanic -o or Proto Nordic -u? If
> > we have a nice piece of evidence for the survival of both versions
> > East Germanic: *jaihvla and *jiula.
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