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[gothic-l] gothic grammar, chapter 1

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  • Eric Craven
    have a look, if its interesting ill provide more. maybe someone can translate for the non-german-speakers... eric from Braune/Ebbinghaus Gotische Grammatik
    Message 1 of 3 , Dec 3 1:51 AM
      have a look, if its interesting ill provide more. maybe someone can
      translate for the
      non-german-speakers...

      eric

      from Braune/Ebbinghaus
      Gotische Grammatik
      19th edition

      Einleitung

      I. Die Goten und ihre Sprache

      a) Die gotische Sprache ist die Sprache des germanischen Volkes der
      Goten
      (GoutwoneV, Gutones). Wohl im fruehen 3. Jahrhundert spalteten sich
      diese
      Staemme, die in alter Ueberlieferung als Ostrogotae und Visigotae, heute
      allgemein
      als Ost- und Westgoten bezeichnet werden, und die in der
      Voelkerwanderungszeit
      eine nicht unbedeutende geschichtliche Rolle spielten. Mit dem Untergang
      des
      Ostgotenreiches in Italien und des Westgotenreiches in Spanien
      verschwinden die
      Goten aus der Geschichte.
      b) Die Goten gehoeren zu einer Gruppe germanischer Staemme, die man nach
      ihnen
      die oft als die "gotische Gruppe", oder mit dem aelteren Plinius (hist.
      nat. iv, 99) als
      die "wandalische Gruppe" (Wandalier; Vandali, Bandiloi) bezeichnet.
      Bedeutendere Glieder dieser Gruppe sind neben den Goten die Gepiden,
      Wandalen, Burgundionen (Burgunden), Heruler, Rugier und Skieren. Diese
      saszen
      zu Anfang unserer Zeitrechnung im nordoestlichen Mitteleuropa etwa von
      der Elbe
      bis oestlich der Weichsel. Ihre Sprachen mueszen nahe verwandt gewesen
      sein,
      doch sind vom Gotischen abgesehen nur aeuszerst spaerliche sprachliche
      Reste
      erhalten (fast ausschlieszlich Eigennamen in nichtgermanischer
      Ueberlieferung), so
      dasz sich eine genauere Beurteilung der Verwandtschaftsverhaeltnisse
      zwischen
      diesen Sprachen verbietet. Dasz diese Sprachverwandtschaft im
      allgemeinen als alt
      angesprochen werden koenne, ist unwahrscheinlich; man wird vielfach mit
      juengerer
      gegenseitiger Beeinflussung zu rechnen haben.
      c) Wir stellen hier die gotische (oder wandalische) Voelkergruppe
      sprachlich als
      Ostgermanen den uebrigen Germanenvoelkern (sprachlich Nord- und
      Westgermanen) gegenueber.

      this is chapter 1

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    • M. Edward Carver
      ... Introduction I. The Goths and their Language a)The Gothic language was the language of the germanic people, the Goths (also Goutwone[s], Gutones). These
      Message 2 of 3 , Dec 3 11:54 PM
        Eric Craven wrote:
        >
        > have a look, if its interesting ill provide more. maybe someone can
        > translate for the
        > non-german-speakers...


        Introduction

        I. The Goths and their Language

        a)The Gothic language was the language of the germanic people, the Goths
        (also Goutwone[s], Gutones). These branches probably separated in the
        early 3rd century and were earlier known as "Ostrogotae" and "Visigotae"
        but today they are commonly East Goths and West Goths. Neither did they
        play a historically insignificant role in the era of tribal migrations.
        The Goths disappear from history with the fall of the East Gothic empire
        into Italy and West Gothic empire into Spain.
        b) The Goths belong to a group of germanic branches that is often
        refered to as the "Gothic Group" or, by Pliny the Elder (hist. nat. iv,
        99), as the "Vandalic Group" (Wandals, Vandali, Bandiloi). The more
        important members of this group are, besides the Goths, the Gepidi,
        Vandali, Burgundii, Heruli, Rugii and Sciri. These tribes were
        originally situated in the northernmost part of central Europe,
        approximately from the Elbe river east to the Weichsel. Their languages
        were probably closely related, though apart from Gothic there are only
        extremely scarce linguistic remnants (almost entirely proper nouns in
        non-germanic transcriptions), thereby disallowing any precise picture of
        the relationships between the languages. That the linguistic connection
        could generally be considered old is improbable; often we must take into
        account later, mutual influences.
        c) We thus distinguish the Gothic (or Vandalic) tribe, linguistically
        East Germanic, from the remaining germanic peoples (linguistically North
        and West Germanic).

        Matt
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      • Christian Petersen
        ... No, it should be: The Gothic language was the vernacular of the Germanic tribe OF the Goths. However, everyone be warned: Carl Hostetter is right in
        Message 3 of 3 , Dec 5 1:14 PM
          M. Edward Carver wrote:
          >
          > Eric Craven wrote:
          > >
          > > have a look, if its interesting ill provide more. maybe someone can
          > > translate for the
          > > non-german-speakers...
          >
          > Introduction
          >
          > I. The Goths and their Language
          >
          > a)The Gothic language was the language of the germanic people, the Goths
          No, it should be:
          'The Gothic language was the vernacular of the Germanic tribe OF the
          Goths.' However, everyone be warned: Carl Hostetter is right in giving a
          hint on the copyright. Since I have contact to the publisher, I know
          about it. The restrictions in force always depend on the respective
          country.
          So, before you put too much effort in it, keep in mind that even a
          translation should be used for personal use only. At best, Eric might
          use it for a single teaching purpose over in Japan, for instance.
          I'm just telling you this right-in-time lest you are disappointed later
          on.
          Have a nice week; Chris
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