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  • matthew carver
    hails greg- It may be possible. The horse-riding tribes of the steppes, Scythians and Sarmations seem to have loaned a few words to germanic languages in
    Message 1 of 19 , Mar 26, 2003
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      hails greg-

      It may be possible. The horse-riding tribes of the steppes, Scythians
      and Sarmations seem to have loaned a few words to germanic languages in
      general, or perhaps they came through Gothic (s.t. via Celtic, as marah-
      'horse', cf. Green, Language & History...): paida 'leather coat' (< ?
      riding coat), path- 'path (orig. a specific 'Scythian' path?), faths
      'leader' (exhibiting the decimal model of the Persian/Iranian military
      grouping). In Green, p. 81: "the possible presence of Gothic (or Gepid)
      loanwords in Rumanian." (ref.: Bierbrauer [1994], 130. Diculescu [1921],
      420ff. et al.)

      -matthew


      On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 04:33 PM, greg scaff wrote:

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      > Hails,
      >
      > My thanks go to Dirk, Vladimir, Oscar, and of course Matthew for your
      > interest and insightful comments re: "balan". I guess another question
      > would be how accurate Procopius was in rendering a foreign word. Oh
      > well. I find it compelling that it means the same in Romania today,or
      > has the same form, as Francisc says, and wonder if their is any
      > possible actual connection between the Romanian form and the possible
      > Gothic?
      >
      > cheers,
      >
      > Greg
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    • greg scaff
      Hails Matthew, Very interesting-thank you, and thanks for the references. cheers, Greg matthew carver wrote:hails greg- It may be
      Message 2 of 19 , Mar 26, 2003
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        Hails Matthew,
        Very interesting-thank you, and thanks for the references.
        cheers,
        Greg
        matthew carver <me@...> wrote:hails greg-

        It may be possible. The horse-riding tribes of the steppes, Scythians
        and Sarmations seem to have loaned a few words to germanic languages in
        general, or perhaps they came through Gothic (s.t. via Celtic, as marah-
        'horse', cf. Green, Language & History...): paida 'leather coat' (< ?
        riding coat), path- 'path (orig. a specific 'Scythian' path?), faths
        'leader' (exhibiting the decimal model of the Persian/Iranian military
        grouping). In Green, p. 81: "the possible presence of Gothic (or Gepid)
        loanwords in Rumanian." (ref.: Bierbrauer [1994], 130. Diculescu [1921],
        420ff. et al.)

        -matthew


        On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 04:33 PM, greg scaff wrote:

        >
        >
        > Hails,
        >
        > My thanks go to Dirk, Vladimir, Oscar, and of course Matthew for your
        > interest and insightful comments re: "balan". I guess another question
        > would be how accurate Procopius was in rendering a foreign word. Oh
        > well. I find it compelling that it means the same in Romania today,or
        > has the same form, as Francisc says, and wonder if their is any
        > possible actual connection between the Romanian form and the possible
        > Gothic?
        >
        > cheers,
        >
        > Greg
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
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      • OSCAR HERRERA
        matthew carver wrote:hails greg- It may be possible. The horse-riding tribes of the steppes, Scythians and Sarmations seem to have
        Message 3 of 19 , Mar 29, 2003
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          matthew carver <me@...> wrote:hails greg-

          It may be possible. The horse-riding tribes of the steppes, Scythians
          and Sarmations seem to have loaned a few words to germanic languages in
          general, or perhaps they came through Gothic (s.t. via Celtic, as marah-
          'horse', cf. Green, Language & History...): paida 'leather coat' (< ?
          riding coat), path- 'path (orig. a specific 'Scythian' path?), faths
          'leader' (exhibiting the decimal model of the Persian/Iranian military
          grouping). In Green, p. 81: "the possible presence of Gothic (or Gepid)
          loanwords in Rumanian." (ref.: Bierbrauer [1994], 130. Diculescu [1921],
          420ff. et al.)

          -matthew


          On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 04:33 PM, greg scaff wrote:

          >
          >
          > Hails,
          >
          > My thanks go to Dirk, Vladimir, Oscar, and of course Matthew for your
          > interest and insightful comments re: "balan". I guess another question
          > would be how accurate Procopius was in rendering a foreign word. Oh
          > well. I find it compelling that it means the same in Romania today,or
          > has the same form, as Francisc says, and wonder if their is any
          > possible actual connection between the Romanian form and the possible
          > Gothic?
          >
          > cheers,
          >
          > Greg
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
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          hails matt--- ik swa naup samma waurdws du gaskeiran. her sind---stop,horse,sex,bugs, interest,do,tiger,lion,bear,paint,color,second,minute,animal,elephant,eagle,falcon. ive reading the corpus of the wulfila project and the translations are assumed and are not exact translations. also are crimean gothic words right translations. like eggs-ada or car-waghen and so forth. another word is cheese........ good luck--oscar

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