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RE: [gothic-l] Gothic music...no, not that kind

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  • Rudy A Carrera
    Keep me informed of this music being worked on. I d love to hear some samples if possible! Rudy Carrera Falçata-Galia http://come.to/falcatagalia Masked
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      Keep me informed of this music being worked on. I'd love to hear some
      samples if possible!

      Rudy Carrera
      Masked Superstar

      -----Original Message-----
      From: sunburst [mailto:sunburst@...]
      Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 9:05 AM
      To: gothic-l@egroups.com
      Subject: Re: [gothic-l] Gothic music...no, not that kind


      I have come across only a painfully small amount of information concerning
      music of the Goths. But we can deduce some information from what exists.
      Jordanes writes:

      "Thereupon those priests of the Goths that are called the Holy Men suddenly
      the gates of Odessus and came forth to meet them. They bore harps and were
      clad in
      snowy robes, and chanted in suppliant strains to the gods of their fathers
      that they
      might be propitious and repel the Macedonians. When the Macedonians saw them
      coming with such confidence to meet them, they were astonished and, so to
      the armed were terrified by the unarmed. Straightway they broke the line
      they had
      formed for battle and not only refrained from destroying the city, but even
      gave back
      those whom they had captured outside by right of war. Then they made a truce
      returned to their own country."

      Though how much this means to one will no doubt depend on whether one
      identifies the Goths with the Getae. Jordanes also writes:

      "In earliest times they sang of the deeds of their ancestors in strains of
      accompanied by the cithara; chanting of Eterpamara, Hanala, Fritigern,
      Vidigoia and
      others whose fame among them is great; such heroes as admiring antiquity
      proclaims its own to be."

      I think we are on firmer ground here, as known Gothic heroes are mentioned.
      The cithara is a wooden lyre (OE hearpe), meaning that Jordanes is likely
      refering to a Gothic form of Germanic lyre/harp, no doubt similar to the one
      found in the Sutton Hoo grave in England, as well as a number of others.

      Jordanes indicates here that the Goths had a poetic/historical tradtion that
      we know was common to other Germanic peoples. This is substantiated by the
      existence of the very material which makes up "the migration myth" in the
      beginning of the Getica, which is obviously remnants of an old Gothic oral

      Also, since in the Germanic world, histories and legends of great heroes
      were passed on in song form, the fact that so many important Gothic
      personalites such as Weyland and Ermanric and Gaut survived in the Edda and
      in A-S poetry like Belwoulf, Widsith, Waldere and Deor, also indicates the
      Goths had an oral tradiditon. After all, the Norse and the English had to
      have learned these stories from somewhere, and song was the medium.

      Being a Germanic people with a poetic tradition then, it is very likely that
      the Goths made use of Germanic Alliterate Verse or some variation of it, to
      formulate their words. These poetic forms show a great continuity over a
      very long period of time. It is possible the form preserved with the
      Anglo-Saxons was also used by the Goths, and it is also possible that the
      Old Norse forms were used (or perhaps originating with?) the Goths. It is
      equally possible that the Goths used a form that is now lost to us.

      Currently I'm still trying to dig myself out from under a backlog of work,
      but producing and recording my reconstruction of Gothic music is high on the
      priority list.

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