[gothic-l] Re: Eruli
- Hails! Matthew and Bertil,
>Keth,I agree. At least part of the time they were associates.
>As I pointed out, it was only to inform
>the listmembers of the latest in research
>and publicity on the Eruli. As the Eruli
>were close allies of the Goths at the
>Black Sea, I cannot see why such
>information would not be relevant to the
By the same token the Langobards, who were the ones who
took over the rule in Italy after the Goths, may be said
to be closely associated with the history of the Goths.
That is why I was so surprised that you appealed to
offtopicness concerning the Langobards.
But now that we have permission to discuss the topic,
I will ask you once again what the etymology of Erul
is, since such knowledge appears to be a necessary
prerequisite to determine the etymologicality
of the various forms the name received during its
If the Germanic form of the name was without H, which is
not a new result (since this is what most reference works
have been saying for a long time), it would support the
notion that the irilar/erilar inscriptions are indeed
related to the Eruls. But the question then also arises
as to why Prokop added an H. And then the 'Hariwulf'
reference is definitly sent cycling.
Þær Hroðgar sæt ... mid his eorla zedriht.
B E O W U L F 357
- --- In email@example.com, "lindarichters
<lindarichters@y...>" <lindarichters@y...> wrote:
#### Hi Linda.
The subject has been discussed a lot. I will answer you very briefly
on Germanic-L, as I dont think the moderator there will object to
that. As for your two questions then I was responding to remarks
made by Dirk. Apart from that I want to say politely that I feel
that it is not yours to decide what is discussed on Gothic-L.
Best regards Einar #####
> > Naturally there were no Heruli existing in the 9th and 10th
> centuries when Iceland was settled so therefore there were no
> among the settlers. But among the settlers there were powerfulhave
> aristocratic families presumably of Swedish descent that could
> been the descendants of aristocratic Heruli families.phrases
> As this position is entirely unfounded, the use of words and
> like "presumably" and "could have been" is in order. The consensusof
> both ancient writers and modern scholarly opinion have establishedA
> Norway as the overwhelming place of origin for both Icelanders and
> Faroe Islanders (see Book of Settlements and related scholarship).
> more relevant question for a Gothic list might be: where did theOrigin
> Goths originate?
> > There can be put forward rather extensive argumentation for this
> hypothesis and these arguments are presented in the book "The
> of the Icelanders", which is the English version. The translationa
> was made by professor Lee M. Hollander at the University of Texas
> How does this relate to the historical East Germanic people known
> the Goths?
> Linda Richters