Re: identification of Flutausis as Cogaeanus
- Hi, thanks for reading my post.
I was serious about the identification of that river with Flutausis=Raftsmen, that's why I thought that films are relevant for the "RAFTSMANS'" concept for Flutausis.
Alike, I read your previous post on Qualis/Galtis as castle in Spain. I have no scholar reference on this observation of yours in this group. Galata in Constantinople is an example. I identified Galtis on Aucha as Galati on Aluta as today's Fagaras (of which the village Galati is a suburb); this is the only castle on Alutus(Olt)!
So, in the end, I take you seriously and I provide you with proofs !
I was convinced about these identifications I make after seeing in the tumulus at Cucuteni(Baiceni) the pillars told by Odin in Yinglinga for the chieftains and more, the antlers in the tomb of a "Sarmis Basileis" guy, said Fin the 6th(Fin is an ancestor of Odin in the sagas).
These are artefacts in museums in my town (Cluj-Napoca), where Vandals are supposed to have lived, according to Iordanes.
I try my best to provide the scholars in this list with genuine data and interpretations and I take you personally very seriously.
Now, after hundred of years of archeological and other scholar research we may have a better understanding, based on artefacts and scholar connexions, on the many theories about the migrations from around the Baltic towards Transilvania (where Cluj-Napoca should have therole of capital and has the largest museum and most of the "gepidic" tumuli).
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, OSCAR HERRE <duke.co@...> wrote:
> iÂ would just like to imput something that maybe someone mite be more up to date on....im talking about the the ameican movie, conan the barbarian starring arnold swarzenegger......just curious, but how true is this movie.....if you follow it it says conan was like a celtic person, that was supposedly captured by germanic renegades and then let go by his captives.....so furthur into the movie conan and his friends are hired by this king named osiric, which im thinking is a gothic cheiftain, to rescue his daughter....also the friends of conan are of asian heritage which indicates this occurred in or around the black sea area, north of the balkans....any ideas about this movie....
> --- On Sun, 5/13/12, Decebal-Radu C <dciurchea@...> wrote:
> From: Decebal-Radu C <dciurchea@...>
> Subject: [gothic-l] Re: identification of Flutausis as Cogaeanus
> To: email@example.com
> Date: Sunday, May 13, 2012, 4:39 PM
> recently a youtube channel contains a story : "Navigatori care dispar, director Iancu Moscu, 1976" i.e. "Sailors disappearing",
> which tells the story of raftsmen on Bistriza/Siret, the swifty river "whirling" into Danube. I identified this river as Iordanes' Flutausis because of Floating=lat.flutare i.e. the eng. rafting.
> The bussiness dissapeared after the 1960's because of a dam, the Bicaz dam(http://www.neamt.ro/Date_gen/Bicaz/Lac_Izv_Muntelui.html).
> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "dciurchea" <dciurchea@> wrote:
> > "In the land of Scythia to the westward dwells, first of 33
> > all, the race of the Gepidae, surrounded by great and
> > famous rivers. For the Tisia flows through it on the
> > north and northwest, and on the southwest is the great
> > Danube. On the east it is cut by the Flutausis, a swiftly
> > eddying stream that sweeps whirling into the Ister's
> > waters. Within these rivers lies Dacia, encircled by the 34
> > lofty Alps as by a crown." Jordannes:V
> > (The Project Gutenberg eBook, The Origin and Deeds of the Goths, by
> > Jordanes, Translated by Charles C. Mierow
> > http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/14809 : V)
> > The name of the river should be Plautausis (i.e. in modern
> > Romanian 'plutashi', eng. raftsmen).
> > Indeed, this river which today starts in the mountains as Bistritza
> > and later as Siret down to the Danube was used by raftsmen until
> > 1969 to convey timber down to Danube and therefore may be taken
> > as "Plutashi">>Plauta(u)si(s), the border of Gepidia with Caucoensi.
> > According to a decent map derived from Ptolemy
> > (http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/macedonia_1849.jpg) the
> > name of this river is "Cogaeonus", i.e. a name related to the Getic
> > sacred mountain Kogaion.
> > The term "koga" is used locally today as an insult for the
> > strangers, foreigners (not in dictionaries); the official name is
> > Neamtz(usually denoting a german; the word is actually formed
> > starting from the root "neam"=stock), as an euphemism for foreigner,
> > since today there is a small ucrainean community there; perhaps in
> > antiquity Starbon(7:3:5) was told about the "Kogaionon" the border.
> > I am glad to learn that the toponimic transcripted by Jordannes was
> > in fact genuine Romanian (i.e. Wallachian), as with Galtis on Alutha.
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