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  • Thomas Chelmowski
    Sir, Thank you for your reply. Sorry I was so late in responding, I thought I had but see no record of it. I appreciate your time and expertise. Tom
    Message 1 of 5 , Jan 28, 2011
      Sir,

      Thank you for your reply. Sorry I was so late in responding, I thought I had
      but see no record of it.
      I appreciate your time and expertise.

      Tom





      ________________________________
      From: r_scherp <r_scherp@...>
      To: gothic-l@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Fri, December 24, 2010 11:45:02 AM
      Subject: [gothic-l] Re: Naming practices


      And do remember that Jordanes was prejudiced. I think the course of history has
      proved his assessment of the primacy of the Amalung wrong.

      Randulfs

      --- In gothic-l@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Schwarcz" <andreas.schwarcz@...>
      wrote:
      >
      > Dear Tom,
      >
      >
      >
      > Alaric is a name, not a title, and Balthus is the (royal or noble) family he
      > was from (the Latin source calls him "genere Baltha", "from the family of
      > the Balthi", and Jordanes writes that this family is only second in nobility
      > to the family of the Amali, the family of Theoderic the Great). The name
      > Balthus may also indicate some ethnic connection of the family. Other
      > members of this family may have been Ariaric, Aoric, Athanaric and Alaviv,
      > who were leaders of the Tervingi before Alaric. So to call him Alaric the
      > Bold or Bold Alaric would both be wrong.
      >
      >
      >
      > All the best,
      >
      > Andreas Schwarcz
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > Ao.Univ.Prof.Dr. Andreas Schwarcz
      >
      > Institut für Österreichische Geschichtsforschung
      >
      > Universität Wien
      >
      > Dr. Karl Lueger-Ring 1
      >
      > A 1010 Wien
      >
      > Austria
      >
      > Tel. 0043-1-42-77/272-16
      >
      > Fax 0043-1-42-77/92-72
      >
      > andreas.schwarcz@...
      >
      > _____
      >
      > Von: gothic-l@yahoogroups.com [mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag
      > von Thomas
      > Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2010 16:01
      > An: gothic-l@yahoogroups.com
      > Betreff: [gothic-l] Naming practices
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > Greetings.
      >
      > I am working on a novel about Alaric. In my research, I read in one place
      > that Alaric may not have been his name, but that Alaric was a distortion by
      > contemporary writers of his title, Ala Reiks (prince of princes).
      >
      > I suspect that this is not true because there were many Gothic names which
      > included the suffix ric, Athanaric for instance.
      >
      > I have also read that he had an appellation, the bold (balthi).
      > To complicate that, I read that Balthi was the title of a sub-tribe of the
      > Tervingi.
      >
      > My goal in writing is to not only entertain, but to educate.
      > So, I have a question. If Balthi were an appellation to Alaric's name, would
      > it have been:
      > Alaric the Bold (Like Eric the Red)
      > or
      > Bold Alaric (like Red Eric)
      >
      > Thank you guys very much.
      > I have asked questions here before and got very helpful responses. You guys
      > are great.
      >
      > Tom
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
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