Re: [gnubies-il] why tar and not cp -a
- On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, stephen s fine wrote:
> here is one answer why tar is prefered-from the IGLU archives.I amI can think of a reason why serialize/deserializing things will not
> still working on the -p option
> On Sun, 28 May 2000, Omer Mussaev wrote:
> > > Any reason why not to use cp -a that I'm not aware of?
> > first: using tar is POSIX compliant, thus you can use tar method on
> > any POSIX(applications) compliant machine.
> > second: this is the Unix way.
> Let me add my own reason for why I like the tar|tar trick better: it's
> standard. No, not in UNIX: in programmer think. You know what the
> way is to copy objects in Java? Why, serialize/deserialize. You know
> the standard way is to copy objects in Python? Why, pickle/unpickle.
> The *correct* way to copy in a pointer-isomorphic way, is by a
> serialize/deserialize mechanism. But that's *exactly* the meaning of
always yield the best results. For example, if you have a view on a
different object, and you want to create another view that will initially
be identical, then the serializing/deserializing mechanism will create a
similiar view with an entirely different source object. And that's not
what you wanted to accomplish...
Generally, duplicating an object is a very vague operation with different
meanings even when it comes to the same object. I am at the moment working
on a relatively large perl API called Gamla (http://gamla.iglu.org.il/).
I coded its base class and decided against it having a duplicate method
for exactly that reason. I just didn't want my classes to have a standard
API function which the user wouldn't know what it does exactly.
But that's a discussion for hackers-il not gnubies-il. Anyway, I would
still choose the "cp -a" method, unless I really had to write something
that is cross-platform enough as to not use GNU cp. The reason for that is
that I consider it safer than a monstrous tar - | (cd $dir ; tar
-) pipeline. Even in perl it's usually not a wise idea to use Data::Dumper
and then eval twice, which if I understood correctly is the equivalent of
a serialize/deserialize stuff. ;-)
> Moshe Zadka <moshez@...>
> http://www.linux.org.il -- we put the penguin in .com
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
Shlomi Fish shlomif@...
Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/
Home E-mail: shlomif@...
The prefix "God Said" has the extraordinary logical property of
converting any statement that follows it into a true one.