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  • Errol & Estelle Sapir
    Uri Thanks for your interest in solving to open office problem I had with writing Hebrew. I managed to solve the problem and reported my solution on the 00o
    Message 1 of 4 , Aug 17, 2004
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      Thanks for your interest in solving to open office problem I had with
      writing Hebrew. I managed to solve the problem and reported my solution
      on the 00o forum. I am reprinting it here for this forum.
      Here is my solution which works for me!

      I'm not sure that what I'm about to describe is the best or correct way
      of writing Hebrew in Open Office programs an Fedora core 2. It is the
      way I got to write Hebrew using OO after MANY unsuccessful attempts. For
      the sake of this article I am reconstructing from memory and trying to
      put into logical order what was three or four weeks of trial and error.

      Hopefully this will help others with the same problem.
      The problem was that I could write Hebrew anywhere in Linux, EXCEPT in
      Open Office.
      I want to thank all members of the Ooo-H & gnubies-il forums who aided
      me in solving the problem. I want to thank three people in particular,
      at the risk of forgetting others (to them I apologize). Thanks to
      Shoshannah Fobes who started me on the right track, to Tzafrir Cohen who
      plodded on with advice when it seemed (to me) that I was getting nowhere
      and to Yatzchak Gale who put the final piece in the puzzle.

      Background and clarifications
      I installed Fedora core 2 as a textual setup. For some reason the CD's
      on my computer wouldn't do a graphical installation. I don't think this
      had any effect on what came later, because after installation everything
      worked OK.
      I installed the complete installation – i.e. all the packages that came
      on the 4 CD's.
      I did the English installation and added Hebrew as another language to
      be installed.
      The OO installation that came with Fedora worked OK without Hebrew. In
      my many attempts to solve the Hebrew problem, I also installed
      Linux-Culmus from the www.linux.org.il site. BOTH versions of Linux
      reacted in the same way to Hebrew writing.
      I am using the KDE format but had the same problems when in Gnome.
      The first step was to go to the site
      http://easylinux.jokie.net/hebrew.html It is a site written in Hebrew
      and offers many ways of setting up Linux to work with Hebrew. I applied
      the setup for the parameters which I wanted. I wanted English interface
      with Hebrew possibilities. I have translated the stages I used from that

      Stages I went through.
      1.Define the keyboard so that ALT/SHIFT toggles between English and Hebrew.
      i. Open the Terminal by pressing the Start menu button>system
      ii. In the terminal type "su" (without the quotes) to get root and then
      your root password.
      Iii. Now type:
      kate /home/user/.Xkbmap
      The word “user” is replaced by your user name.
      iv. Then type:
      -option grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp:switch,grp_led:scroll us,il
      note the “-” sign that starts the string.
      v. Save the file.

      2.Define Hebrew in the system (but keeping English interface).
      i. As root in the terminal type:
      kate /etc/sysconfig/i18n
      ii. Change whatever is written in the file that appears to: (keep the
      quotes, upper and lower-case)

      (Note: from SUPPORTED to the last quote should all be on one line)
      iii. Save the file.

      3.Defining the directories and files to support Hebrew names.
      i. As root in the terminal type:
      kate /etc/fstab
      ii.The next command is placed in the fourth column (after the word
      As you will see when opening this file, there are many lines one could
      write the above string on.
      As a relative newbie to Linux I'm not sure exactly on which line is the
      correct one. I tried several places and at the moment it is in the same
      line as "/sys". That could be the wrong place! Input anyone?

      4.The final problem and it's solution (at least for me).

      After doing all of the above my problems really became confusing to me.

      I was able to write Hebrew anywhere in Fedora – in terminal, in any
      place that text could be written! The ONLY place Hebrew would not type
      was in any of the Open Office programs. Here is where Yitzchak Gale gave
      me the push I needed.
      i. After much corresponding on the forum he asked me to type:
      LC_CTYPE=C oowriter &
      at the shell prompt. This command opened the oowriter with the ability
      to write Hebrew. Eureka!!

      ii. Now the problem became how to make this permanent i.e. so that
      whenever one opens the OO the ability to write in Hebrew would be
      possible. My workaround enables me to open any of the OO programs and
      write Hebrew and use different Hebrew fonts etc. It seems the every
      version of Linux sees the OO files in a different way. I'll try and explain.
      Yitzchak suggested to me the following:
      1.Right-click the OOo icon on the panel.
      2. Select Properties.
      3. Select the Execute tab.
      4. Modify the text in the Command field as follows:
      i. Leave all of the existing text. Before the existing
      text add the following new text:

      /bin/env LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8

      ii. Make sure that there is a space after the new text
      to separate it from the existing text.

      5.Click OK.

      When trying the above that I found no “execute” tab inproperties of OO
      In Fedora core 2 when pressing on properties on any of the OO progams,
      the properties box comes up with three tabs - “general”, “permissions” &
      “application”. When opening the application tab, there arevarious text
      boxes. In the one called “command” is written the name ofthe OO program
      - “oowriter”, “oocalc” or “ooimprress”. BEFORE those names I added the
      original command given to me by Yitzchak and then a space before the
      name of the program. So the command box under the application tab now reads:
      LC_CTYPE=C oowriter
      I repeated this for each of the OO programs and am happy to say that I
      can now write Hebrew in ALL of the OO programs. So the other two
      programs also have a new line in the command:
      LC_CTYPE=C ooimpress
      LC_CTYPE=C oocalc

      I hope these instructions are clear and will be only too willing to
      clarify anything. It is essential to keep all upper and lower –case
      letters as typed here.


      usharf@... wrote:

      > What you are describing here is not really needed. I have the same setup
      > like
      > you, and I don't need to go through this. My default system locale is
      > en_US.UTF-8 and I don't have problems typing Hebrew in OOo's
      > applications. It
      > could help if you check what you have in: /etc/sysconfig/i18n.
      > Uri
      > > Where do I type the line you wrote?
      > > When right clicking "properties" on any of the icons in the taskbar I
      > > don't get any tab or box with "execute". I get three tabs at the top
      > > "general", "permissions" & "application". I don't see anywhere to modify
      > > text! I'm sure I'm missing something here.
      > Errol
      > Basically my question to this forum is the same as I asked Yitzchak. I
      > was able to write Hebrew if I started wirter (or calc etc.) with the
      > following command
      > LC_CTYPE=C oowriter &
      > That worked and hence Yitzchak's above suggestion which I cannot implement.
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    • Uri Sharf
      Thank you Errol, that makes sense and a good reference for others as well. Uri
      Message 2 of 4 , Aug 18, 2004
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        Thank you Errol, that makes sense and a good reference for others as well.

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