Re: [Gnosticism2] Re: equality
- Dear PMCV,
I will do my best at explaining my understanding of
these scriptures. Onward...
Logion 114, _The Gospel According to Thomas
Simon Peter said to them, "Mary should leave us, for
females are not
worthy of life."
Jesus said, "See, I am going to attract her to make
her male so that she too might become a living spirit
you males. For every female (element) that makes
itself male will
enter the kingdom of heavens."
As I read the Gnostic scriptures, I see that the
female is flesh and the male is of the mind. So, when
I read this I see Jesus telling Paul that he would
attract her (the opposite of repelling which I believe
was Paul's statement) to him and teach her to be of
mind, like men, which would enable her to have the
living spirit of a male.
From _The Gospel According to Philip_:
A Gentile does not die, for the gentile has never
become alive so as
to die. One who has believed in the truth has become
alive; and this
person runs the risk of dying, because of being alive.
Since Christ came, the world has been created, cities
organized, and the dead have been buried. When we
were Hebrews we
were orphans with (only) our mother, but when we
became Christians we
got father and mother.
This says to me that the Gentile doesn't spiritually
die because he is already dead by default of not
knowing the truth (same with the Hebrews) due to the
fact that without the father/male/mind all were left
with the mother/flesh (whom all man except Jesus were
born of) which equalled death. Christ coming and
bringing the father/mind/truth gave men and women of
the woman/flesh the ability to become of male mind and
obtain the truth which in essence was obtaining life.
--- pmcvflag <email@example.com> wrote:
> Well, there are other translations that may usehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/BYrrlB/TM
> different words here,
> of course. May I suggest stepping back for a moment
> and then tell us
> what you think the basic meaning is here before we
> get into more
> specifics. Tell us your take on these passages.
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- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Gavin Riggott" <wu@n...> wrote:
>Thank you, Gavin, for stating what *should* be obvious. Personally,
> No offense, but these one-liners don't convey an awful lot. For
> example, is that a personal oppinion or a Gnostic position? If
> the latter, could you expand on it a little, like why you brought
> it up and where it comes from, etc?
> Gavin Riggott
I think one-liners are better suited for a comedy club, so your
appeal to Reason here was much appreciated.