Re: [Gnosticism2] Re: Can everyone be saved by Gnosis?
- On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:40:32 -0000
lady_caritas <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>OTOH, why do we see Gnostic mythological docetic and"He died, when the Spirit which had come upon him in Jordan
>treatments of Christ vs. the absolute orthodox necessity
>Jesus/Christ as fully human and fully divine, God
>are various reasons. From a Gnostic view, could an
>an aeon subject to a fully human persona remain
departed from him; not that it might exist separately, but
rather it withdrew in order that death might operate.
For how would the body have died, if life had been present
in him? Death would then have dominion over the Saviour,
which is absurd.? (Exc. Ex Theo.)
At least some ancient Gnostics found the idea of an ?aeon
subject to a fully human persona (remaining) incorruptible?
Cari, would you mind elaborating a little about the
?various reasons? you mention above? I?m fascinated.
>Now we're seeing a case where my Catholicism is betterDuring his sermon this morning my priest said that he heard
>Catholicism. Saklas par excellence.
Gibson say in an interview that his wife, an Episcopalian,
can?t be saved since she isn?t a member of the ?true?
church. Wouldn?t you like to be a fly on the wall in the
>Extreme, gut-wrenching,Its nothing less than a Fundie dream come true. At least
>fundamental literalism brings believers to their knees
>via a massive
>guilt trip. Look what He physically suffered; man, we
for some Fundies anyway. I gurarntee that some
fundamentalists will tell their congreations that because
the film was made by a Roman Catholic (read: un-saved and
in league with Satan) they'll be sinning if they see a
movie about their Saviour's death for their sins made by an
un-believer. Go figure.
Anyway, after the imposition of the ashes this Wednesday
I?m going to see it, and I?m willing to bet the members of
this group a dollar each that during key scenes (e.g. nails
driven in, statements made by Jesus while on the cross
delivered with just the right amount of pathos) I?ll see
the ?Holy Spirit antennas? going up throughout the theater,
mixed with exclamations of ?Thank you Jesus!?, etc. I have
unshakable confidence that the film will whip the troops
into a frenzy. How tragic.
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> Thanks for clearing those things up for me. Aside from being newto the group, please note that I do need to do quite a bit of
reading. I also agree that Kundalini & Gnosticism are not two of the
same, but merely conveying that the Gospels Thomas and Philip had
certain qualities that remind me of Kundalini.
> Please be patient with me.
> All the best,
Forgive me for not looking back in the earlier messages, but I'm
hoping you were the one who had questions about how it was decided
which books made it into the Bible. Here's a link that covers the
I hate that it looks like you may have to cut and paste one letter to
make that work, but you may find it interesting enough to make it
worth the bother.