- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Paul Kieniewicz <paulmmk@y...>
> Belatedly, thank you Cari for your reply and for the interestinglink to the article on "metaphors".
You're welcome, Paul. I found that whole website quite compelling.
>Religous conditioning also enters in --- the Darwinian universe being
>I accept your points, that scientists are not objective beings.
>Certainly they are conditioned by belief systems and those do enter
>into their research (the male vs female IQ a case in point).
a strong (atheistic) reaction to the religous ethos of the 19th
>century.I find it interesting that many people tend to relate, sometimes in a
reactive manner, in terms of black and white religious supernatural
theism (god beings) vs. rational, naturalistic atheism, although
there certainly are religious or spiritually inclined people who
consider themselves atheistic or nontheistic as well as
materialists/atheists who very much recognize the significance of
both their rational and nonrational natures.
> Another aspect of the issue is the extend to which modern mythscome in scientific trappings, because that is what our minds relate
to today. Flying Saucers and the Matrix come to mind. BTW, the"
Matrix," and the expression "cyberspace" first appeared in the 1980's
in William Gibson's novel, "Neuromancer" --- quite a wild book that
also contains gnostic elements.
>Oh, wow, I keep saying I'm going to pick up that book. Has it been
that long? lol No excuses; I should read it. I've heard enough
In that vein, considering your mention of Darwin, Gibson, "matrix,"
and "cyberspace," here is a link to a collection of quotes
("Cyberspace the New Jerusalem") about these terms you might (or
not) be familiar with, under the following headings: Definitions and
Origin, The Gnostic Mythform, The Platonic Matrix, Evolution or
Also, this lecture about cyberspace mentions Gibson, as well as