Re: quantum questions
- Hello Gerry
On 23-Oct-03, you wrote:
> --- In email@example.com, Mike Leavitt <ac998@l...> wrote:
>> Actually I can see your point, but that book haunts me to this day.
> And you wanted ME TO READ THAT BOOK!!! Thanks, Mike, but I have
> enough difficulty sleeping. LOL
Thank heavens he really hadn't gotten around to Gnosticism, or he
have thrown it in to. LOL.
>> Haven't even heard of him until now, but Pierre Telard de Jiardin
>> (sp?), a Jesuit, tried to correlate evolution to Catholicism, as he
>> was a Paleontologist. His own order tried to ban his books as
>> heretical, oddly, Pope John the 23rd interceded on his behalf, and
>> pronounced them not heretical. They should like Catholicized
>> Theosophy, at least they did back when I read them, though the Pope
>> was really right, because he always stayed just within Orthodoxy,
>> even though he had the whole Universe evolving.
> Even while I was writing last night about the pitfalls of one
> discipline being dependent on another, or more typically, speaking
> outside of its scope against the accepted truths of another, I began
> to wonder how the Church has even withstood the test of time.
> Considering our friend Copernicus whom we mentioned the other day,
> and especially Galileo, it looks like people by now might have said,
> "Yeah, whatever " with regards to proclamations that fly in the face
> of reason.
One of the church Fathers said I be.lieve because it is ridiculous, or
words to that effect. Prophetic, I'd say. :-)
> As you point out, though, even scientific findings change over time.
> Realistically, I guess the best approach for each perspective would
> be to allow some wiggle room for growth rather than relying on years
> of "accepted" truths to determine the immutability of any "apparent"
> truths, virtually excluding reasonable explorations into new
Sounds reasonable to me.
> Geez, I'm not really a Trekkie; I just sound like one on the
> Internet. ;-)
Not really. You just needed a reality check to put it into
perspective. You made some good points, IMO.
Mike Leavitt ac998@...
> Interesting to hear it put that way - I haven't read Bauer (yet), soAs far as I can see, Walter Bauer is considered somewhat of a pioneer
> Gnostic Gospels felt like an historian exploring new ground. Based
> on her bibliography and notes, I at least had a sense that Pagels was
> leaning on Bauer.
in the investigative genre of "Early Christian" scholarship - especially
with the Comittee to which Pagels belonged (the Coptic Gnostic Library
Comittee of scholars).
Anyways, I was just butting in to inform the readers of this list
that they can make their own mind up, without much trouble and without
parting with money - Bauer`s chief work is online
Walter Bauer: Orthodoxy and Heresy in Earliest Christianity
Terje Dahl Bergersen
Deacon,Ecclesia Gnostica Norvegia