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Re: [Gnosticism2] Re: jesus incarnation?

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  • Ginosko
    MM Sarutobi Basically I would agree with you, but their is an error in your post. The Nag Hammadi docs don t portay the Demiurgus as a Creator. Rather he is
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      MM Sarutobi

      Basically I would agree with you, but their is an error in your post. The
      Nag Hammadi docs don't portay the Demiurgus as a Creator. Rather he is
      called blind when he awakens and seeing no one around proclaims himself
      creator, i.e. it's like someone saying IDIOT! when someone falsely proclaims
      something to them today.


      Man must be a lover of the light no matter from what day-spring it may
      appear. He must be a lover of the rose no matter in what soil it may be
      growing. He must be a seeker of the truth no matter from what source it
      come. Attachment to the lantern is not loving the light.

      Abdu'l-Baha, Foundations of World Unity, p. 15 )

      > yes we have lol....alright quick change of subject! without any of
      > the expert gnostics in here describing to me, let me see if i
      > understand the important concept of Gnosis. From what i've
      > understood it means realizing the "spirit" inside of us, the divine
      > light manifest from the Heavenly Creator that was given to us
      > despite the Demiurge creating the material cosmos......it is not
      > going by what the church fathers created putting faith above
      > reason...
      > What i'm not too sure of though is that of the Gnostic texts in
      > general, were the authors actually inspired by God? and are the
      > texts from jesus' saints? i hope they didnt just make it all up and
      > say it was from personal gnosis, i've heard both sides to this story
      > in some gnostic books......Gnosticism is a divinely revealed
      > religion right? i do have the Nag Hammadi library with me so any
      > texts i should read most importantly?
      > --- In gnosticism2@yahoogroups.com, pmcvflag <no_reply@y...> wrote:
      > > Sarutobi, now we have completely gone off the deep end. Are you
      > > interested in Gnosticism?
      > >
      > > PMCV
      > >
      > > --------------------------------------------------
      > >
      > > of course i know about Asherah and the ancient Canaanite culture,
      > i
      > > was even a devoted priest at one time ;) (if u wanna call it
      > > that)......But thats Canaanite culture, a paganized version of
      > > Abrahamic Faith, that only leads me to believe Yahweh worship was
      > > truelly ancient, even on different levels, As i studied the
      > cultures
      > > more, i found many other interesting things. Moses didnt know much
      > > of Canaanite culture and religion, or Yahweh for that matter, plus
      > > how could he have received such different messages from Yahweh in
      > > Egypt so far away from any priests in Canaan? He wasnt even able
      > to
      > > be a prophet for he was weak and could do nothing, but Yahweh
      > > changed all that! God encouraged him and raised him to be the
      > > greatest prophet whoever lived according to Judaism, before the
      > > encounter with God he wasnt much of anything, just a good-hearted
      > > older man, but God knew better. Could it not be just a re-
      > > affirmation of the old Hebrew faith? Canaanite pre-hebrew
      > traditions
      > > are true, but its questionable as to how it came about as well, it
      > > has much more parrallels to Sumerian/Babylonian culture than it
      > does
      > > to Judaism. There is evidence of the Abrahamic faith apart from
      > > Canaanite Paganism, and that they were two totally diff.
      > > religions......
      > >
      > > I'm not trying to prove anything, every writing script
      > > supposedly "ancient" in this modern age is most probable to be a
      > > perverted aspect of original writings, we all know that, or should
      > > know, but the Jewish Tradition has a saying in response to
      > this: "it
      > > doesnt matter if our path is exactly as it once was or not, or
      > what
      > > others say is true or not, the main teachings are still there and
      > > always will be, it only matters that we believe its true and
      > follow
      > > our path to God."
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