Re: Gnostic Philosophy... A newby, here to learn more....
- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, lady_caritas <no_reply@y...>
> --- In email@example.com, "Raven Skydancer"become
> <skydancer26@y...> wrote:
> > -- In firstname.lastname@example.org, lady_caritas <no_reply@y...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > From _The Gospel of Philip_,
> > >
> > > "People cannot see anything in the real realm unless they
> > it.earth
> > > In the realm of truth, it is not as human beings in the world,
> > > see the sun without being the sun, and see the sky and the
> > andthings
> > > so forth without being them. Rather, if you have seen any
> > > there, you have become those things: if you have seen thespirit,
> > you[father,
> > > have become the spirit; if you have seen the anointed (Christ),
> > > have become the anointed (Christ); if you have seen the
> > you]who
> > > will become the father. Thus [here] (in the world), you see
> > > everything and do not [see] your own self. But there, you see
> > > yourself; for you shall [become] what you see."
> > > Cari
> > Thank you again Lady_Caritas, Cari... Wlliam Blake, English, 1757-
> > 1827, "artist, poet and mystic..." My kind of a guy, smile.
> > As I said, "I'm not an intellectual" however, I do enjoy people
> > are...Yet
> > Thank you for "Philip", I read the words and I am not sure what
> > words mean. When I see the Marvels of the Universe through the
> > view of my limited intelligence... I am one in spirit with the
> > univese as I know it... Like in Spiritual Alchemy, I raise my
> > vibrations and become something more precious than I was before I
> > changed, just by seeing and feeling the Joy of it all... But, is
> > that "being"? Is that a becoming of the same things I see?
> > My God Self within, whom I call "High Self", we speak often one
> > the other, everyday... I realize that I am not the Son of God,
> > am... I address my High Self as Father, He calls me Son... Yes, I
> > know this might all sound quite spooky or Spiritual... Like the
> > Divine Paradox, "... while the universe is not, still it is." It
> > said, "In Mental Transmutation, the mind(as well as metals and
> > elements)may be transmuted, from state to state, degree to
> > condition to condition, pole to pole and vibration tovery
> > The Kybalion... a text alleged to be far older than the "gospels"
> > the "Old Teatament" for that matter, dating back to the days and
> > writings of one Hermes Trismegistus, Hermes, the namesake of
> > Hermeticism, also known as Thoth of ancient Egypt.
> > Please bear in mind, I only know of these things, I do not KNOW
> > things... but from where I sit, in my world, they come from a
> > credible source... If it be proper to call my within, Inner-Self,do
> > God Self within... a "credible source". Smile
> > I simply share with you a small segment of my Spiritual Path. I
> > not mean anyone should follow my path, follow your own Path, itis
> > the right Path for you...recognizing
> > May we each walk in beauty...
> > Namaste, Sky
> Hello, Sky. The Gnostics did not view the material world as
> the "realm of truth." There was a distinction between corruptible
> matter and incorruptible spirit. We physically might "see" the sun
> and sky and earth, but our physical selves do not "become" them.
> When we have "seen" or become acquainted with the "spirit," or
> the "anointed" or the "father," within ourselves, we are
> our true self, as we "become" what we see and are no longera
> spiritually blind. We don't see it if we don't experience it. At
> least that's my take on it. Others might have differing
> interpretations. Elsewhere in _The Gospel of Philip_ we find, "If
> blind person and one with sight are both in the darkness, they areAntiquity
> not different from one another. When the light comes, then the
> person with sight will see the light, and the blind person will
> remain in the darkness."
> Sky, you might enjoy the book, _Gnosis and Hermeticism from
> to Modern Times_, edited by Roelof van den Broek and Wouter J.Hi Cari... Thank you for the assist with "Philip"... I appreciate
> Hanegraaff. Also, here is an essay by Stephan Hoeller,
> tracing "Hermes and Hermeticism Throughout the Ages":
> > Cari
your take on it... and your honesty regarding how others might have a
different Take on the same words...
I find words to be very difficult when it comes to explaining the
Spiritual, but very handy when one wishes to tell a cute joke, smile.
Someone said, "We are spiritual beings living a human experience."
I will look into the Book, Gnosis and Hermeticism from Antiquity. And
I am familiar with some of Stephan Hoeller's work... I will check the
URL. Thank you for that...