Re: Back to the subject at hand
- Well all, I am finally back. In looking through the posts there
doesn't seem to be much for me to jump in on (though I admittedly
skimmed very quickly, due to the amount of posts since I had left),
so I thought I would go back and answer this one post that was
specifically directed at me. I don't mean to bring up the Pythagoras
issue again, but I thought perhaps this could reiterate the question
of exactly what "Gnosticism" is.
So, George asks....
>>>>You write:"Gnosticism is most definately syncratic."
But so far, the only way we've been able to identify
the strands of this syncratism is by starting with
Actually, we have not established any connection between Pythagoras
and the Gnostics. Thus, I am not sure what you mean to imply by
saying that Pythagoras is the only way we have identified strands of
syncratism in Gnosticism. I have however pointed out aspects of that
Platonic system called "Neopythagorianims", perhaps that is what you
>>>While I'm willing to agree that the Pythagorean School wasnot gnostic, it would be most helpful to learn which factor
or factors EXCLUDE it from Gnosticism.
Can you provide a summary of the distinctions?<<<
Well, more to the point would be; what reason do we have to include
it? However, perhaps I can satisfy the question concerning
First of all, "Gnosticism" belongs to a specific segment of time
known as the "Late Antiquities" Pythagoras does not, and therefor
does not fit that part of the word "Gnosticism".
Next point, since Gnosticism is a syncratism between Greek and Jewish
thought, the lack of Jewish influence on Pythagoras excludes him.
Also, I have seen no evidence that Pythagoras believed in a
cosmogeny, cosmology, anthropogenty, etc., that in any way coincided
with the ones we see in "Gnosticism".
These things would need to be established before we could think of
connecting the two belief systems in any way.