Re: The Egyptian "epi-center" of the Pessemism of a Material Existence
"I tend to think that our best bet in tracing gnostic thought would
> be to look at the history of Orphism in Hellenic culture. OrphismNice thought! Let me see what the other posts about
> goes way back and has all the basic elements of gnostic pessimism.
> May I remind you that it was the Orphics who coined the
> phrase, "this body, a tomb"."
this might have said.
But in the meantime, how far back can we trace Orphism?
I was under the impression that Orphism traces itself
back, ultimately, to Osiris.
So perhaps we're both right? Can we get Orphism back
to the Greek occupation of Egypt?
- Hello lady_caritas
On 06-Apr-03, you wrote:
>> My Bishop makes good points here, but it just makes the historian's
>> task more difficult, not less desirable, and it makes his goals
>> more circumscribed, perhaps.
>> Mike Leavitt ac998@l...
> I would agree, Mike. Historians offer us contextual information for
> our discussions.
> You also mention in Post #7467, "If we don't know where we came
> from, we don't know where we are going. Gnosis may be now, but it is
> not in a vacuum."
> Again, agreed, of course gnosis is not in a vacuum. We live in a
> temporal world and gnosis is comprehended within that environment.
> I suppose my point was to say that your comment, "If we don't know
> where we came from, we don't know where we are going," could be
> viewed with more than one meaning.
Always, it is a limitation of the language, any language. And one can
get so hung up in the history, one forgets about practice. My BA was
in Classical and Medieval History, my MA is in Psychology, so I guess
that puts me squarely in both the historical and the practice camps,
actually not a contradiction as I see it.
Mike Leavitt ac998@...