Re: Succession of Valentinus was Re: Question
- Hello pmcvflag
On 16-Jan-03, you wrote:
> Hmmm, well, unfortunately I don't know Stephen so I can't ask him. I
> take it you do, and so do a couple of other people here. Perhpas
> Ernst has heard it from Stephen as well, and can clerify, since he
> also goes out there to Stephen's church. I am looking through all my
> historical sources, and just can't find the John- Celenius-
> Valintinus version (but these things can be hard to find for sure).
> I only see the Paul- Theudus- Valintinus version. Of course, we all
> know that these sources can be pretty fickle. However, please, if
> you do find it let us know. As I said, I am alwasy interested in
> these bits of info.
>> You would have to ask Stephen Hoeller, that is my source, and I
>> remember who he was quoting. But historically Lucineus Celenius was
>> John's student, and Valentinus was his, so I guess that is where it
>> comes from. A lot of Celenius stuff was quasi-Gnostic. He wrote a
>> lot of gospel like stuff. Obvoiously that line, if it ever existed,
>> died with the Valenininans. It would have made Valentinus a Bishop,
>> even before running for Bishop of Rome. Who knows really at this
>> distance in time.
I'll try to remember to ask him next time I see him. I am not at
church often as my back keeps me from driving even that far, too much
of the time. The way Stephan said it, I thought it was commonly
accepted, and it does make sense, given the nature of the three men.
Of course, I can't guarantee that my memory isn't playing tricks on
me. In fact, I'll Blind CC this to him through a friend.
Mike Leavitt ac998@...
BCC to B for Stephan.