Re: [Gnosticism2] Re: The Black Arts by Richard Cavendish
- --- In gnosticism2@y..., incognito_lightbringer <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Again, the relationship between Sophia, Demiurge, and Satan isn'tso
> clear. Are they all the same force described as a plurality, wherestill
> some aspects are to redeemed, others destroyed? Is Sophia,
> well...Sophia in the upper aeons, but Satan/Demiurge/Spirit in the
> material world, a kind of fracture or psychosis or duality? I know
> the gnostic texts present a linear story, but they do so with the
> Pleroma also (this came first, then that, then that) but that's
> all a unity and stressed as such. Origin of the World, withpower.
> Ialdeboath and all his sons, may be similar. Thus when an upheaveal
> takes place, it's within the demiurge himself, and the demiurge is
> material (animate but not spiritual) and has part of Sophia's
> Satan on the other hand is spiritual, but evil. Just throwing some4. As, then, they (ed., followers of Ptolemy and Valentinus) represent all
> ideas around.
material substance to
be formed from three passions, viz., fear, grief, and
perplexity, the account they give is as follows: Animal
substances originated from fear and from conversion; the
Demiurge they also describe as owing his origin to
conversion; but the existence of all the other animal
substances they ascribe to fear, such as the souls of
irrational animals, and of wild beasts, and men. And on
this account, he (the Demiurge), being incapable of
recognising any spiritual essences, imagined himself to
be God alone, and declared through the prophets, "I am
God, and besides me there is none else."(3) They further
teach that the spirits of wickedness derived their origin
***Hence the devil, whom they also call
Cosmocrator (the ruler of the world), and the demons, and
the angels, and every wicked spiritual being that exists,
found the source Of their existence. They represent the
Demiurge as being the son of that mother of theirs
(Achamoth), and Cosmocrator as the creature of the
***Cosmocrator has knowledge of what is above
himself, because he is a spirit of wickedness;
Demiurge is ignorant of such things, inasmuch as he is
merely animal. Their mother dwells in that place which is
above the heavens, that is, in the intermediate abode;
the Demiurge in the heavenly place, that is, in the
hebdomad; but the Cosmocrator in this our world.
Irenaeus Adv. Haer. V.
- --- In gnosticism2@y..., "Wayne" <waynel@i...> wrote:
> --- In gnosticism2@y..., "Kishara" <kisharaiwass@y...> wrote:http://classics.mit.edu/Antoninus/meditations.html
> > You should read "meditations" by marcus aurelius.
> > -K.A.
> Can I find it on the internet?