Re: The Black Arts by Richard Cavendish
How can gnosticism be Satanic? I'm under the impression Lucifer and
Satan are not the same thing in gnostic mythology. If you translate
Lucifer as Latin for morning star, it's either/or both Sophia and
Jesus. Sophia is also identified as the Holy Spirit. Neither is the
demiurge necessarily Satan either. In some texts he appears to be, in
others he's a composite of craftsman and world ruler, world ruler
being Satan, craftsman the Old Testament God once ignorant but now in
cahoots with the upper Godhead. In some texts there's a heavenly
upheaval where one aspect of the demiurge repents (Saboath) whereas
Ialdeboath, the original force, gets displaced and goes black and
insane. Although it could be said that the fall of Sophia generates
both demiurge and Satan, neither is she Satan from the standpoint of
ancient gnostic texts, although you could say she is Lucifer, having
fallen into matter from foolishness/and-or pride/and-or the desire to
surmount the upper Godhead. In Nag Hammadi Origin of the World,
there's an dark force within chaos even prior to the creation of the
demiurge, and that force is responsible for the generation of matter.
So on. I'm just wondering how you interpret the myths and Satan
Also, from what I've gleaned, most Satanists are secular humanist
atheists who think this world isn't such a bad place. Rather, that
human psychology is screwed up. And they don't even believe there is
a Devil or a God. It's all just non-literal symbolism and mind. This
differs from gnosticism which views matter as evil and rejects the
material world. The OTO call themselves gnostics too, and they don't
reject the material world either. There seems to be some confusion as
to what's gnostic.
--- In gnosticism2@y..., "Magus Lazarus" <Magus_lazarus@h...> wrote:
> The Black Arts by Richard Cavendish is a truly amazing work which i
> enough good things about (hence the reason i added a reference to
> in my signature). it is a true inspiration to those of us who
follow a path
> which combines Gnosism and Satanism and captures the Universal
> the Black Magician better than any single writer i've ever had the
> of reading. I have even joking refered to it as the Gnostic
- --- In gnosticism2@y..., "Wayne" <waynel@i...> wrote:
> --- In gnosticism2@y..., "Kishara" <kisharaiwass@y...> wrote:http://classics.mit.edu/Antoninus/meditations.html
> > You should read "meditations" by marcus aurelius.
> > -K.A.
> Can I find it on the internet?