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A comparison of the terms

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  • incognito_lightbringer
    Sorry for all the spam, but this topic is one of great interest to me and prior debates on the subject were not very conclusive. One problem is defining the
    Message 1 of 1 , Oct 22, 2002
      Sorry for all the spam, but this topic is one of great interest to me
      and prior debates on the subject were not very conclusive. One
      problem is defining the terms specifically, so that's why I posted
      all this. (not that these definitions may be of any good either).
      But which one is closest to the Gnostic viewppoint?
      I'm still confused. For example, the reincarnation <<TG
      Reincarnation. The doctrine of rebirth, believed in by Jesus and the
      Apostles, as by all men in those days, but denied now by the
      Christians>> should spark debate. TG means the source comes from
      Blavatsky, so take it with a grain of salt.

      It seems to me that all these terms are used haphazardly one in place
      of the other depending on the source which does not facilitate

      I also missed posting this part about reincarnating ego, which seems
      to have a gnostic theme to it. It also seems to be diametrically
      opposed to the Buddhist philosophy.

      The comparison of terms is below.

      OG Reincarnating Ego -- In the method of dividing the human
      principles into a trichotomy of an upper duad, an intermediate duad,
      and a lower triad -- or distributively spirit, soul, and body -- the
      second or intermediate duad, manas-kama, or the intermediate nature,
      is the ordinary seat of human consciousness, and itself is composed
      of two qualitative parts: an upper or aspiring part, which is
      commonly called the reincarnating ego or the higher manas, and a
      lower part attracted to material things, which is the focus of what
      expresses itself in the average man as the human ego, his everyday
      ordinary seat of consciousness. When death occurs, the mortal and
      material portions sink into oblivion; while the reincarnating ego
      carries the best and noblest parts of the spiritual memory of the man
      that was into the devachan or heaven world of postmortem rest and
      recuperation, where the ego remains in the bosom of the monad or of
      the monadic essence in a state of the most perfect and utter bliss
      and peace, constantly reviewing and improving upon in its own
      blissful imagination all the unfulfilled spiritual yearnings and
      longings of the life just closed that its naturally creative
      faculties automatically suggest to the entity now in the devachan.

      But the monad above spoken of passes from sphere to sphere on its
      peregrinations from earth, carrying with it the reincarnating ego, or
      what we may for simplicity of expression call the earth-child, in its
      bosom, where this reincarnating ego is in its state of perfect bliss
      and peace, until the time comes when, having passed through all the
      invisible realms connected by chains of causation with our own
      planet, it slowly "descends" again through these higher intermediate
      spheres earthwards. Coincidently does the reincarnating ego slowly
      begin to reawaken to self-conscious activity. Gradually it feels, at
      first unconsciously to itself, the attraction earthwards, arising out
      of the karmic seeds of thought and emotion and impulse sown in the
      preceding life on earth and now beginning to awaken; and as these
      attractions grow stronger, in other words as the reincarnating ego
      awakens more fully, it finds itself under the domination of a strong
      psychomagnetic attraction drawing it to the earth-sphere. The time
      finally comes when it is drawn strongly to the family on earth whose
      karmic attractions or karmic status or condition are the nearest to
      its own characteristics; and it then enters, or attaches itself to,
      by reason of the psychomagnetic attraction, the human seed which will
      grow into the body of the human being to be. Thus reincarnation takes
      place, and the reincarnating ego reawakens to life on earth in the
      body of a little child.

      SD INDEX Reincarnating Ego(s)

      A Comparison of Terms
      (Paraphrased excerpts taken from Occult Glossary, Word Wisdom, and
      The Esoteric Tradition by G. de Purucker)


      Any human LIFE CENTER exists before embodiment

      General term for the belief that the human soul existed before it was
      born on earth, and did not come into being for the first time with
      its present earth life.

      Any LIFE CENTER in any body on any plane

      Expresses more than that the soul merely pre-exists. It expresses the
      idea that the soul takes unto itself a succession of new bodies on
      whatever plane it may happen to be on. The specific significance is
      that of assuming new embodiments periodically. It does not indicate
      that the body is taken here on earth or elsewhere, or whether the
      body be visible or invisible. Any LIFE CENTER reimbodies itself, and
      the term is not limited to humans.

      Any LIFE CENTER in new body on any plane

      General term signifying that a LIFE CENTER is coming into birth
      again, and takes unto itself a new body, excluding specific
      explanations of the type or kind of reimbodiment.

      Any LIFE CENTER in an identic strain

      From the Greek, meaning 'coming again into being' or 'becoming
      again.' The transmission of an identic life in cyclical, recurring
      phases. (i.e.; From an oak tree, to its seed or acorn, to a new oak
      tree.) It signifies the continuous transmission of an identic life,
      producing at each transformation a new manifestation or result, these
      several results being in each case a new becoming of the same life-
      stream. This is quite different from transmigration.

      [The words above signify aspects or phases of the general doctrine of
      reimbodiment. The post-mortem destiny of most of the reimbodying
      egos, or LIFE CENTERS, actually includes not merely one, but all of
      these phases.]

      Any LIFE CENTER into a similar or differing strain, or one condition,
      state or plane to another

      It means that the particular life-atoms, which in their aggregate
      compose a man's lower principles, at and following the change that
      men call death, migrate or pass into other bodies to which these life-
      atoms are attracted by similarity of development. (Does not mean LIFE
      CENTERS change into other LIFE CENTERS either above or below between
      lives -- i.e.; humans do not reimbody as animals, etc.) The human
      LIFE CENTER passing from one condition or state or plane, to another,
      within its karmic evolutionary path.

      Any LIFE CENTER between life-periods

      From the Greek, meaning 'insouling after insouling' or 'changing soul
      after soul.' A LIFE CENTER, during the course of its evolutionary
      peregrinations, throws forth from itself periodically a new 'soul
      garment' or 'soul sheath'; a series of soul-changings as the ages
      pass by.

      Any LIFE CENTER (usually human) in a fleshy body composition

      From the Latin, meaning 'reinfleshment.' The coming again into a
      fleshy body of a soul of the same type -- usually applied to the
      human soul and body. (To try and clarify things some have proposed
      the following terms for reimbodiment of distinct LIFE CENTERS;
      Reinzooination for animals, Reinvegetalization for plants, and
      Reinmetalization for minerals.) The term also contains the
      implication of possible incarnation in flesh of entities which have
      finished their earthly evolution, but who choose to return for the
      purpose of aiding their less evolved brothers. Please note that
      resurrection is a form of reincarnational belief.

      Any human LIFE CENTER in a different body composition

      From the Greek, meaning 'changing body after body,' not necessarily
      always using human bodies of flesh, but bodies of appropriate yet
      different physical material concordant with the evolutionary stage of
      development with the plane or sphere of Nature on which the
      reimbodiment takes place. In far past ages the human race had bodies,
      but not of flesh, as may be the case in far distant ages of the
      future. May be termed as 'bodifying' -- whatever that 'body' may be
      composed of.


      Each of these eight terms has specific meaning. G. de Purucker gave
      the following example of usage in The Esoteric Tradition, 2:601-2:

      "Thus: the human soul not only 'pre-exists' but it 'reimbodies'
      itself, and in doing so takes 'rebirth' on this Earth, and it does so
      by means of psycho-astral 'palingenesis,' accomplished by means of
      its own particular manner of 'transmigration,' the whole process
      largely being marked by the 'metempsychosis' through which it passes,
      bringing about 'reincarnation' or returning to human fleshly bodies
      on Earth, thus filling its need for 'bodifying' its faculties and
      attributes in this sphere."
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