Re: Revelations as Valentinian Scripture--Who's calling?
- Yes that was a bit of me channeling Sta. Teresa de Avila I
suppose, in some mystic frenzy seeing Achamoth giving suck to
her fallen child Yaltabaoth.
Sometimes the symbols seem so clear and I find it impossible
to write anything coherent because I haven't the language and
the language is what Valentinus or Mani provide...I think.
I am finding a great deal of explanatory power in Valentinus just
now and am seeing like Ernst explained the interior college of
Christianity as being what Valentinus, Basilides, Simon Magus,
Paul, Marcion...all expelled in the Christian Coalition of the
day...Nicea. Or is it etically seen to be Christian Coalition? Maybe
it was more like Salem Witch Hunt? Stalinist purge?
Of course my understanding is technically etic and I am trying to
apply my emic perspective (my Church of One) onto something
that appears to have correlates to my experience, however, in
relation to the historical, mythical and textual material, my
viewpoint of Valentinus or Mani is and must always be etic.
Eticality does not speak to mystical experience per se, and so it
does not matter or apply if i say Valentinus really rocks my boat
and Mani is like a brother to me. What do eme-etics have to do
with what is an interior experience.?
Direct vision of the Father through the agency of the Son has no
correlate to eme-etic dialectic, and also no language in
common parlance of the flesh.
So what does one do in this Cartesian world but use analogy to
what preceded the Doctrines of Chalcedon and
Nicaea...summon Basilides from the grave.
So Hey_Market, I see your point and I also see Ernst and Flag's
points as well. It is bridging the type of intellectual gaps that
arise from a confusion of scholarly language in mystical
discourse, or mystical language in scholarly discourse.
But I am learning immensely from all of you here.
--- In gnosticism2@y..., hey_market <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> To hear one's name is to receive a call, or in the deepest
> sense, it's "the Call," a phrase that Manicheans (among
> fond of.