[Gnosticism] Re: Non sequitor and the father in Gnosticism
- --- In gnosticism2@y..., Terje Dahl Bergersen <terje@b...> wrote:
> >The problem with Gnosticism is its position not only of theThank you Terje for the brilliant exposition.
> >tripartite individual...an oxymoron really since how can an
> >in-dividual be divided into 3 parts?...but also of a triplicity of
> >humanity in which there ate the choic, the psychic and the
> The way I view it, is that the tripartition of not only the
> "Individual" but the entirety outside of the Pleroma -
> rests on the creation myth which incorporates more than
> one occasion/event of creation and moreover appears to have
> more levels/dimensions than the one which is calculated with
> in the Orthodox creation myth.
> Man, for instance, is fashioned twice and "conceived" or
> "brought into being" - three times - if the twofold
> creation is taken into account.
My statement was meant to be rhetorical and a challenge to the
belief in 'individualism', the concept that the human being is a
singular locus of perception, thought, contrtol and action.
I think your post addressed this modern misconception quite
Caritas asked why some fail to heed the Gnostic call and I posit
based on Gospel of Truth it is because of this total identification
with the hylic sense of individuality, or what we call in modern
Thi "i" is clearly not a single unitary self, just as the God cannot
be seen to be a single unitary deity, but likewise appears
fragmented in scripture, Old Testament, New and Quran.
Which brings me to another question about kabbalah, which
appears to deal with events after the tzimtzum and breaking of
the vessels; analogous to the fall of Sophia, the partition into
aAchamoth and the generation of the Demiurge.
As such the problematic aspects of resolving the YHWH of
Kabbalah with classical gnosticism which sees him as
demiurge appears to be solved through realizing that the
Sephiroth of the Etz Chaim are in fact Cosmic echoes of the
It would seem to me that the process of Lurianic tikkun is
orientated towards the rehabilitation of YHWH to the pleroma
and the overcoming of his alienation from his mother Achamoth.
While in the Apocryphon of John this deity proclaims 'I am God,
there is no God but me' echoes of which are in the Decalogue
and the Islamic shahadah, there are hints in these scriptures
that this is a forgetful hypostasis of the Real, or the Father.
At least this is my take on it so far.