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“Canopy” of Gnosticism

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  • lady_caritas
    Hi, Ernst, hey_market, and all. I must say I really like the direction this discussion is taking so far. In the past there have been some, shall we say,
    Message 1 of 1 , Feb 21 8:02 AM
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      Hi, Ernst, hey_market, and all. I must say I
      really like the direction this discussion is taking so
      far. In the past there have been some, shall we say,
      intense debates regarding the �definition� of Gnosticism,
      and perhaps we�ve been concentrating too heavily on
      the trees and missing the forest. Then again, how do
      we describe this forest? Is there a larger forest of
      �Gnosticism� which accommodates a variety of religions and
      interpretations? Do we draw a line at the edge of the forest
      inhibiting new growth?<br><br>As we all individually
      negotiate the trees and undergrowth, I suppose we need to
      consider whether letting the forest grow in a natural
      manner will be beneficial or will overgrown trees
      provide a forest canopy that eventually blocks out the
      light of Gnosis. Should we be concerned about
      protecting those young seedlings?<br><br>Just because a tree
      is bigger doesn�t necessarily make it better. If
      that were so, we could just shut down this club, head
      on over to the forest across the road, and all
      become Christians or followers of one of the other
      established, modern religions. Or we might be inclined to
      huddle under a tree sanctioned by someone like Irenaeus.
      However, I�m not convinced that just cutting down trees
      solves the problem. Trees have roots and until those
      roots die, we might find some value in trimming the
      trees, preserving the healthy trunks and limbs, still
      allowing divine light to continue to illuminate our paths.
      As long as the tree roots are strong, I realize that
      how that trimming should proceed can lead to
      vigorous, yet healthy debate if the tree trimmers all have
      the survival of the tree as their goal. <br><br>IOW,
      to rehash some of the wonderful ideas Ernst and
      hey_market presented, while still in our physical state in
      this world, we cannot escape history. As we explore
      through knowledge and experience, . . . as we continue to
      seek, intuitively as well as using critical thinking,
      we should consider those roots that give our paths
      nourishment. This club offers a place to investigate those
      historical roots in relation to each of our individual
      paths. <br><br>Is so much ancient data really all that
      unreliable? Can nothing of value be gleaned from the
      ancients? I think these words are rather simplistic. I
      think it is rather telling that Morton Smith doesn�t
      mind using �unreliable� ancient concepts, such as
      �pleroma� and �lower world� in his quest for a �philosophic
      definition.� Hey_market mentioned Jung. Can Morton Smith
      possible refute the value Jung found in ancient Gnostic
      mythology in treating patients through dream therapy, for
      instance?<br><br>Well, Ernst said to �stay tuned.� So, enough of my
      commercial interruption. Onward to the next segment of the
      show. ;-)<br><br>Cari
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