Re: The Ancient Communities Categorized as "Gnostic"
- Hey George
>>>Chronologically speaking, where do we draw the line intoa more modern period?<<<
If I recall the Messina definition simply states "the Late
Antiquities" as an attribute of the "Gnosticism" category (up to about
500 C.E. was the common date). However, since that time it seems most
scholars have dealt with the issue more on the front of specific
belief systems. This is probably more reasonable since if we found a
text by a Sethian sect still existing in the Medieval era we would
have to include it.
The more important attributes that scholars generally look at as
definitive include cosmology/cosmogeny, soteriology, and a specific
cultural origin (Hellenistic/"Biblical" syncratism).
- "a bit like a muslim studying catholicism"
No, more like a modern gnostic studying his (or her) roots in
historical Gnosticism. Many things are useful to a point--and the
point is often knowing that point. The flaw may be in your
expectations and not in the purpose of this list.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Br Benjamin Assisi"
> in this group yes,
> this group is very much just a study/history group...
> interesting I guess...but flawed, a bit like a muslim studying
> useful to a point.
> Arguing at the AGCA??? We are discussing a central core, well I am
> attempt one, Personally It think there are few "universals" inGnosticism
> unknowable god, illusion, no dogma etc. I dont find any problem inseeing
> that out side "Gnosticism" either... But I realize in this groupand others,
> its mostly an exercise in separation, putting that substance in acentrifuge
> and seeing what you get. So I am here to lurk mostly...
> On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 3:02 PM, George <historynow2002@...> wrote:
> > Brother Benjamin:
> > Indeed, I had worked under the assumption that we were looking
> > for what was the central CORE of these various groups, rather
> > than an historical view of who, and what, and where.
> > I presume I was in error?
> > Regards,
> > George
> Better than one thousand verses
> Where no profit wings the word,
> Is one solitary stanza
> Bringing peace of mind when heard.