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Re: [Gnosticism2] Re: Classifications among the Valentinians

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  • dwain
    ... thanks. i rather like it too. a little off topic, but have you or any of the group read holy blood, holy grail? the authors talk of the gnostics and
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      Mark wrote:
      >
      > dwain,
      >
      > I would agree it is valuable to see something from a multitude of
      > perspectives--and often the more radically opposite the perspective,
      > the more it may help bring that "something" into focus. Due in large
      > part to the Nag Hammadi discoveries and others, the orthodox
      > persepctive is now one among many and we are the richer for that. I
      > am fond of a quote from Jeffrey Butz's book, _The Brother of Jesus_
      > (p. 162), "Orthodoxy is merely the most successful heresy."
      >
      > BTW, I like your Kandinsky quote and the way it speaks to the
      > relationship between form and content.
      >
      > Mark
      >
      > --- In gnosticism2@yahoogroups.com
      > <mailto:gnosticism2%40yahoogroups.com>, dwain <dwain.alford@...> wrote:
      > >
      > > Mark wrote:
      > > >
      > > > dwain,
      > > >
      > > > I deal with this alternate interpretation as I deal with all the
      > > > alternates: I pick the one that speaks to me. Hearing that which
      > > > speaks to one is part of one's gnosis. If this alternate
      > > > interpretation speaks to you, I affirm your gnosis.
      > > >
      > > > Mark
      > > >
      > > > --- In gnosticism2@yahoogroups.com
      > <mailto:gnosticism2%40yahoogroups.com>
      > > > <mailto:gnosticism2%40yahoogroups.com>, dwain <dwain.alford@>
      > wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > Mark wrote:
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Cari,
      > > > > >
      > > > > > The person directly experiences the
      > > > > > presence of the risen Christ in the form of his or her
      > personal
      > > > > > angel." This interpretation of this experience resonates
      > better
      > > > with
      > > > > > me.
      > > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > how do you deal with the alternate gnostic approach that the
      > > > crucifixion was a sham and also that jesus was satan and that john
      > > > the baptist was the true messiah?
      > > > >
      > > > > dwain
      > > > > --
      > > > > Dwain Alford
      > > > > web: http://www.studiokdd.com <http://www.studiokdd.com>
      > <http://www.studiokdd.com <http://www.studiokdd.com>>
      > > > >
      > > > > "The artist may use any form which his expression demands;
      > > > > for his inner impulse must find suitable expression." Kandinsky
      > > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > it's not that i think it is correct, it is one of the alternates,
      > as you
      > > call it, that adds perspective to any understanding. questions are
      > good
      > > in that they allow for growth. i assume that if one was raised in
      > a
      > > christian atmosphere, this thinking would seem at odds with what
      > one was
      > > raised to "believe". in fact, gnosticism is at odds
      > with "catholic"
      > > (read universal) orthodoxy.
      > >
      > > dwain
      > >
      > > --
      > > Dwain Alford
      > > web: http://www.studiokdd.com <http://www.studiokdd.com>
      > >
      > > "The artist may use any form which his expression demands;
      > > for his inner impulse must find suitable expression." Kandinsky
      > >
      >
      >
      thanks. i rather like it too.

      a little off topic, but have you or any of the group read holy blood,
      holy grail? the authors talk of the gnostics and their contributions.

      dwain

      --
      Dwain Alford
      web: http://www.studiokdd.com

      "The artist may use any form which his expression demands;
      for his inner impulse must find suitable expression." Kandinsky
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