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  • dwain
    ... exactly who i was speaking of. who did the more sensitive evaluation and when did it occur? are there any links to this information you can share? dwain
    Message 1 of 17 , Jun 28, 2007
      pmcvflag wrote:
      >
      > >>>and also that jesus was satan and that john the baptist was the true
      > messiah?<<<
      >
      > I think you may be mixing a few things. Just because something may
      > sometimes be called "Heretic" or is unusual by modern Christian
      > thinking does not mean it is specifically "Gnostic". You may be
      > talking about the Mandaeans. There was a time when this group was
      > called "Gnostic", but more sensitive evaluation shows they may not be.
      >


      >
      > PMCV
      >
      >

      exactly who i was speaking of. who did the more sensitive evaluation
      and when did it occur? are there any links to this information you can
      share?

      dwain

      --
      Dwain Alford
      web: http://www.studiokdd.com

      "The artist may use any form which his expression demands;
      for his inner impulse must find suitable expression." Kandinsky
    • lady_caritas
      ... Ah, and here is more about angels: http://www.gnosis.org/library/valentinus/Joined_Angel.htm
      Message 2 of 17 , Jun 28, 2007


        --- In gnosticism2@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <larockpitts@...> wrote:
        >
        > Cari,
        >
        > Thanks for this link. I will have to spend some time with it. I did
        > notice one thing that provided a fuller context for what is found in
        > some teachings, such as the Golden Dawn and especially Thelema, about
        > what is often called one's "Higher Guardian Angel" or HGA. This is
        > where the article states, "In order to become identified with the
        > spiritual element, the person must attain a state of mystical
        > knowledge (gnosis) of God. The person directly experiences the
        > presence of the risen Christ in the form of his or her personal
        > angel." This interpretation of this experience resonates better with
        > me.
        >

        Ah, and here is more about angels:

        http://www.gnosis.org/library/valentinus/Joined_Angel.htm

         

         

        > As for the context of "spiritual care," I work as a healthcare
        > chaplain and in this profession in our literature we often wrestle
        > with what adjective to use to describe our work: spiritual and/or
        > pastoral. In short, I personally prefer "spiritual," since the care
        > I provide is based primarily on my response to the other person's
        > expressed spirituality as opposed to flowing from own authority as an
        > ordained pastor within a faith community. The problem, however, is
        > that everybody uses "spiritual" and "spirituality," but no body
        > really knows what it is. So as I read various things related to my
        > own spiritual path, I always look for insights that may help develop
        > a better tool for providing spiritual assessments within a clinical
        > setting, which normally should begin with a good definition of
        > terms. Most people who write on this topic pass over this problem of
        > defintion and go straight to discussing assessment tools. I am tired
        > of that.
        >
        > Maybe that was more than you were asking regarding context.
        >
        > Mark
        >
        >

         

        Mark, not at all.  Thank you for sharing this.  Defining "spiritual" or "spirituality" does seem like a daunting task when considering all the individual, not only sectarian, ideas on this subject.  After all, someone's definition for "spiritual" might be another's definition for "psychic."  :-)  I do applaud you, though, Mark, for considering the individual's expression on the subject.

         

        I was under the impression that most hospitals ask if one has a religious preference in order to better facilitate "spiritual" care from pastors, etc.  This past year I was in a surgical lounge of a metropolitan hospital with a relative who was awaiting surgery.  I've never experienced this before, but a pastor moved around the room talking with individual groups of people, asking if people wanted to pray with him.  He was offering a Christian prayer.  I'm sure many of the Christians would find this appropriate; however, the pastor initially wouldn't have known whether they were Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, atheists, etc. unless they spoke up.  One might even run into a Mandaean.  ;-) 

         

        At least general definitions of terms to suit broad categories of religions might be a starting point or backdrop before assessing more individual expression if the one administering care deals with people from a variety of spiritual backgrounds. 

         

        Cari

         

         

      • pmcvflag
        Hey Dwain You ask... ... and when did it occur? are there any links to this information you can share?
        Message 3 of 17 , Jun 28, 2007
          Hey Dwain

          You ask...

          >>>exactly who i was speaking of. who did the more sensitive evaluation
          and when did it occur? are there any links to this information you can
          share?<<<

          Hmmm, now that you mention it I don't really even know of many
          websites on the subject. I guess I can't be very helpful in that way.
          I am far from a specialist when it comes to the Mandaeans, so I am
          only quoting the story as I have heard it. According to Lady Drower,
          one of the early researchers of these people, she initially
          categorized Mandaeans as "Gnostics" because a friend of hers (I
          believe it was Quispel, if I remember correctly) convinced her they
          must be connected. She states that at the time she didn't know much
          about "Gnosticism" (though she knew very much about Mandaeans and
          Quispel did not), and in her later books she recants her initial
          categorization because as she learned more about Gnosticism she felt
          they were actually quite different. In other words, the person who
          categorized them this way in the first place is the one later points
          out that the categorization was overly hasty.

          By that time, though, I guess the damage was done, so to speak.
          Depending on her early observations many other authors who are either
          specialists in Gnosticism but not Mandaeans, or in Mandaeans but not
          Gnosticism have recounted the similarities and lumped them together.
          For instance, Rudolph does so in "Gnosis". I even have a book by
          Lupieri called "Mandaeans; the last Gnostics". The problem is that
          Rudolph simply takes it for granted that they must be Gnostics, and
          doesn't really explain why that would be so. Lupieri, on the other
          hand, does try to explain the connection but he is not as well
          informed about Gnosticism so some of the things he seems to set up as
          points of similarity don't actually work very well.

          Although it came out that way in my previous post, I don't actually
          intend to say that the Mandaeans COULDN'T be in some way categorized
          as Gnosticism (the way I tend to with Manichaeans). It could be a good
          conversation to explore right here on the forum. If you have some
          specific similarities in mind we can certainly test them and see what
          everyone thinks about it.

          It seems to me that one of the most common things I hear people
          mention as important in connecting the two movements is the
          name "Mandaean" itself. The problem with this is that it is not what
          they traditionally called themselves. I am skeptical about the role of
          esoteric knowing in the soteriology of the Mandaeans, and this is the
          sort of thing I think we need to be sensetive about when we deal with
          the issue. What I have read about the Mandaeans has implied to me that
          their salvational beliefs actually place the emphasis on ritual
          practice rather than on some kind of "Gnosis". Perhaps you can help
          clarify this issue for us in the course of conversation.

          PMCV
        • Nicholas Doolilttle
          ... messiah?
          Message 4 of 17 , Jun 28, 2007
            >>>and also that jesus was satan and that john the baptist was the true
            messiah?<<<

            I think you are refering to Aleister Crowley's   Vision and the Voice.
             
            Vision and voice p134
             
            --and Satan is worshipped by men under the name of
            Jesus, and Lucifer is worshiped by men under
            the name of Brahma, and Leviathan is
            worshiped by men under the name Allah, and
            Belial is worshiped by men under the name
            of Buddha.
             
             
            I Imagine
             
            that Lucifer(light bearer), and Satan(accusor/deciever)
            are really two different people. It is Lucifer the light bearer
            who brings the light to us, the Truth. and Satan has decieved
            us into believing that he is the evil one. and so keeping us from
            the Truth.
             
            or at least thats the way it looks to me, from where I Stand.
            I couldnt explain how I Know that.
            I just know what its like to have the whole world despise you
            because you dared to even try to do what is right.
            Satan is the jealous one who wishes that HE could be the
            one to bring the light to the world.
          • Mark
            dwain, I deal with this alternate interpretation as I deal with all the alternates: I pick the one that speaks to me. Hearing that which speaks to one is part
            Message 5 of 17 , Jun 28, 2007
              dwain,

              I deal with this alternate interpretation as I deal with all the
              alternates: I pick the one that speaks to me. Hearing that which
              speaks to one is part of one's gnosis. If this alternate
              interpretation speaks to you, I affirm your gnosis.

              Mark

              --- In gnosticism2@yahoogroups.com, dwain <dwain.alford@...> wrote:
              >
              > Mark wrote:
              > >
              > > Cari,
              > >
              > > The person directly experiences the
              > > presence of the risen Christ in the form of his or her personal
              > > angel." This interpretation of this experience resonates better
              with
              > > me.
              > >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > how do you deal with the alternate gnostic approach that the
              crucifixion was a sham and also that jesus was satan and that john
              the baptist was the true messiah?
              >
              > dwain
              > --
              > Dwain Alford
              > web: http://www.studiokdd.com
              >
              > "The artist may use any form which his expression demands;
              > for his inner impulse must find suitable expression." Kandinsky
              >
            • Mark
              ... a ... pastor ... into ... Concerning this pastor and his actions: as the hospital staff chaplain I would ask him to leave and not come back and call
              Message 6 of 17 , Jun 28, 2007
                --- In gnosticism2@yahoogroups.com, lady_caritas <no_reply@...> wrote:


                > I was under the impression that most hospitals ask if one has a
                > religious preference in order to better facilitate "spiritual"
                > care from pastors, etc. This past year I was in a surgical lounge of
                a
                > metropolitan hospital with a relative who was awaiting surgery.
                > I've never experienced this before, but a pastor moved around the
                > room talking with individual groups of people, asking if people wanted
                > to pray with him. He was offering a Christian prayer. I'm sure
                > many of the Christians would find this appropriate; however, the
                pastor
                > initially wouldn't have known whether they were Jews, Muslims,
                > Buddhists, atheists, etc. unless they spoke up. One might even run
                into
                > a Mandaean. ;-)
                >

                Concerning this pastor and his actions: as the hospital staff chaplain
                I would ask him to leave and not come back and call security if needed
                (as I have done before if I find a pastor visiting people who are not
                of their faith tradition and invited). This kind of "pastoral care" is
                inappropriate in a multi-cultural, multi-faith setting such as most
                healthcare institutions today. Board certified chaplains today are
                trained to work with a variety of faiths or no faith in the provision
                of spiritual care. You may read an article I wrote on this topic at
                http://www.hds.harvard.edu/news/bulletin/articles/larocca-pitts.html.

                I generally find my work more satisfying the less traditional a
                person's spiritual path is. I am a seeker who has found a path that
                feeds my soul and enjoy traveling with others on other paths that feed
                them. Within Valentinus and Sethian traditions I have found much that
                speaks to me and that is currently informing my path.

                I will check out your link on angels. Thanks!

                Mark
              • Lisa
                Hi everyone, I ve been a member here for a little while but not sure I ve ever posted. Sorry if this is way off topic but it seems to apply to this
                Message 7 of 17 , Jun 28, 2007
                  Hi everyone,
                  I've been a member here for a little while but not sure I've ever posted.
                  Sorry if this is way off topic but it seems to apply to this conversation :)
                  If anyone (Mark ?) has an opinion about Interfaith Seminary schools (for
                  example: http://newseminary.org/ ) and ordination as an Interfaith Minister
                  I would love to read it.

                  Thanks!
                  Lisa

                  ________________________________________
                  From: Mark
                  Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 9:33 PM
                  To: gnosticism2@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: [Gnosticism2] Re: Classifications among the Valentinians
                  Concerning this pastor and his actions: as the hospital staff chaplain
                  I would ask him to leave and not come back and call security if needed
                  (as I have done before if I find a pastor visiting people who are not
                  of their faith tradition and invited). This kind of "pastoral care" is
                  inappropriate in a multi-cultural, multi-faith setting such as most
                  healthcare institutions today. Board certified chaplains today are
                  trained to work with a variety of faiths or no faith in the provision
                  of spiritual care. You may read an article I wrote on this topic at
                  http://www.hds.harvard.edu/news/bulletin/articles/larocca-pitts.html.

                  I generally find my work more satisfying the less traditional a
                  person's spiritual path is. I am a seeker who has found a path that
                  feeds my soul and enjoy traveling with others on other paths that feed
                  them. Within Valentinus and Sethian traditions I have found much that
                  speaks to me and that is currently informing my path.

                  I will check out your link on angels. Thanks!

                  Mark
                  .
                • dwain
                  ... not really, the manicheans think along this line. see the gnostic bible by barnstone and meyer. dwain -- Dwain Alford web: http://www.studiokdd.com The
                  Message 8 of 17 , Jun 28, 2007
                    Nicholas Doolilttle wrote:
                    > >>>and also that jesus was satan and that john the baptist was the true
                    > messiah?<<<
                    >
                    > I think you are refering to Aleister Crowley's Vision and the Voice.
                    >
                    > Vision and voice p134
                    >
                    > --and Satan is worshipped by men under the name of
                    > Jesus, and Lucifer is worshiped by men under
                    > the name of Brahma, and Leviathan is
                    > worshiped by men under the name Allah, and
                    > Belial is worshiped by men under the name
                    > of Buddha.
                    >
                    >
                    > I Imagine
                    >
                    > that Lucifer(light bearer), and Satan(accusor/deciever)
                    > are really two different people. It is Lucifer the light bearer
                    > who brings the light to us, the Truth. and Satan has decieved
                    > us into believing that he is the evil one. and so keeping us from
                    > the Truth.
                    >
                    > or at least thats the way it looks to me, from where I Stand.
                    > I couldnt explain how I Know that.
                    > I just know what its like to have the whole world despise you
                    > because you dared to even try to do what is right.
                    > Satan is the jealous one who wishes that HE could be the
                    > one to bring the light to the world.
                    >
                    not really, the manicheans think along this line. see the gnostic bible
                    by barnstone and meyer.

                    dwain

                    --
                    Dwain Alford
                    web: http://www.studiokdd.com

                    "The artist may use any form which his expression demands;
                    for his inner impulse must find suitable expression." Kandinsky
                  • dwain
                    ... it s not that i think it is correct, it is one of the alternates, as you call it, that adds perspective to any understanding. questions are good in that
                    Message 9 of 17 , Jun 28, 2007
                      Mark wrote:
                      >
                      > dwain,
                      >
                      > I deal with this alternate interpretation as I deal with all the
                      > alternates: I pick the one that speaks to me. Hearing that which
                      > speaks to one is part of one's gnosis. If this alternate
                      > interpretation speaks to you, I affirm your gnosis.
                      >
                      > Mark
                      >
                      > --- In gnosticism2@yahoogroups.com
                      > <mailto:gnosticism2%40yahoogroups.com>, dwain <dwain.alford@...> wrote:
                      > >
                      > > Mark wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > > Cari,
                      > > >
                      > > > The person directly experiences the
                      > > > presence of the risen Christ in the form of his or her personal
                      > > > angel." This interpretation of this experience resonates better
                      > with
                      > > > me.
                      > > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > how do you deal with the alternate gnostic approach that the
                      > crucifixion was a sham and also that jesus was satan and that john
                      > the baptist was the true messiah?
                      > >
                      > > dwain
                      > > --
                      > > Dwain Alford
                      > > web: http://www.studiokdd.com <http://www.studiokdd.com>
                      > >
                      > > "The artist may use any form which his expression demands;
                      > > for his inner impulse must find suitable expression." Kandinsky
                      > >
                      >
                      >
                      it's not that i think it is correct, it is one of the alternates, as you
                      call it, that adds perspective to any understanding. questions are good
                      in that they allow for growth. i assume that if one was raised in a
                      christian atmosphere, this thinking would seem at odds with what one was
                      raised to "believe". in fact, gnosticism is at odds with "catholic"
                      (read universal) orthodoxy.

                      dwain

                      --
                      Dwain Alford
                      web: http://www.studiokdd.com

                      "The artist may use any form which his expression demands;
                      for his inner impulse must find suitable expression." Kandinsky
                    • lady_caritas
                      ... wanted ... . Mark, thank you for the article. It was very informative. I can see
                      Message 10 of 17 , Jun 29, 2007


                        --- In gnosticism2@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <larockpitts@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > --- In gnosticism2@yahoogroups.com, lady_caritas no_reply@ wrote:
                        >
                        >
                        > > I was under the impression that most hospitals ask if one has a
                        > > religious preference in order to better facilitate "spiritual"
                        > > care from pastors, etc. This past year I was in a surgical lounge of
                        > a
                        > > metropolitan hospital with a relative who was awaiting surgery.
                        > > I've never experienced this before, but a pastor moved around the
                        > > room talking with individual groups of people, asking if people wanted
                        > > to pray with him. He was offering a Christian prayer. I'm sure
                        > > many of the Christians would find this appropriate; however, the
                        > pastor
                        > > initially wouldn't have known whether they were Jews, Muslims,
                        > > Buddhists, atheists, etc. unless they spoke up. One might even run
                        > into
                        > > a Mandaean. ;-)
                        > >
                        >
                        > Concerning this pastor and his actions: as the hospital staff chaplain
                        > I would ask him to leave and not come back and call security if needed
                        > (as I have done before if I find a pastor visiting people who are not
                        > of their faith tradition and invited). This kind of "pastoral care" is
                        > inappropriate in a multi-cultural, multi-faith setting such as most
                        > healthcare institutions today. Board certified chaplains today are
                        > trained to work with a variety of faiths or no faith in the provision
                        > of spiritual care. You may read an article I wrote on this topic at
                        > http://www.hds.harvard.edu/news/bulletin/articles/larocca-pitts.html.

                        Mark, thank you for the article.  It was very informative.  I can see that when approached with training and sensitivity, a hospital staff chaplain's work can be quite challenging as well as satisfying.

                        I'll repost your link without the added ending period, so that members can access the article more easily:

                        http://www.hds.harvard.edu/news/bulletin/articles/larocca-pitts.html

                         

                        > I generally find my work more satisfying the less traditional a
                        > person's spiritual path is. I am a seeker who has found a path that
                        > feeds my soul and enjoy traveling with others on other paths that feed
                        > them. Within Valentinus and Sethian traditions I have found much that
                        > speaks to me and that is currently informing my path.
                        >
                        > I will check out your link on angels. Thanks!
                        >
                        > Mark
                        >

                        You're welcome, Mark.  I'll be interested to hear whatever you care to share about Valentinians and Sethians that speaks to you, whenever you have some time.

                        Cari 

                      • Mark
                        dwain, I would agree it is valuable to see something from a multitude of perspectives--and often the more radically opposite the perspective, the more it may
                        Message 11 of 17 , Jun 29, 2007
                          dwain,

                          I would agree it is valuable to see something from a multitude of
                          perspectives--and often the more radically opposite the perspective,
                          the more it may help bring that "something" into focus. Due in large
                          part to the Nag Hammadi discoveries and others, the orthodox
                          persepctive is now one among many and we are the richer for that. I
                          am fond of a quote from Jeffrey Butz's book, _The Brother of Jesus_
                          (p. 162), "Orthodoxy is merely the most successful heresy."


                          BTW, I like your Kandinsky quote and the way it speaks to the
                          relationship between form and content.

                          Mark

                          --- In gnosticism2@yahoogroups.com, dwain <dwain.alford@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > Mark wrote:
                          > >
                          > > dwain,
                          > >
                          > > I deal with this alternate interpretation as I deal with all the
                          > > alternates: I pick the one that speaks to me. Hearing that which
                          > > speaks to one is part of one's gnosis. If this alternate
                          > > interpretation speaks to you, I affirm your gnosis.
                          > >
                          > > Mark
                          > >
                          > > --- In gnosticism2@yahoogroups.com
                          > > <mailto:gnosticism2%40yahoogroups.com>, dwain <dwain.alford@>
                          wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > > Mark wrote:
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Cari,
                          > > > >
                          > > > > The person directly experiences the
                          > > > > presence of the risen Christ in the form of his or her
                          personal
                          > > > > angel." This interpretation of this experience resonates
                          better
                          > > with
                          > > > > me.
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > how do you deal with the alternate gnostic approach that the
                          > > crucifixion was a sham and also that jesus was satan and that john
                          > > the baptist was the true messiah?
                          > > >
                          > > > dwain
                          > > > --
                          > > > Dwain Alford
                          > > > web: http://www.studiokdd.com <http://www.studiokdd.com>
                          > > >
                          > > > "The artist may use any form which his expression demands;
                          > > > for his inner impulse must find suitable expression." Kandinsky
                          > > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > it's not that i think it is correct, it is one of the alternates,
                          as you
                          > call it, that adds perspective to any understanding. questions are
                          good
                          > in that they allow for growth. i assume that if one was raised in
                          a
                          > christian atmosphere, this thinking would seem at odds with what
                          one was
                          > raised to "believe". in fact, gnosticism is at odds
                          with "catholic"
                          > (read universal) orthodoxy.
                          >
                          > dwain
                          >
                          > --
                          > Dwain Alford
                          > web: http://www.studiokdd.com
                          >
                          > "The artist may use any form which his expression demands;
                          > for his inner impulse must find suitable expression." Kandinsky
                          >
                        • dwain
                          ... thanks. i rather like it too. a little off topic, but have you or any of the group read holy blood, holy grail? the authors talk of the gnostics and
                          Message 12 of 17 , Jun 29, 2007
                            Mark wrote:
                            >
                            > dwain,
                            >
                            > I would agree it is valuable to see something from a multitude of
                            > perspectives--and often the more radically opposite the perspective,
                            > the more it may help bring that "something" into focus. Due in large
                            > part to the Nag Hammadi discoveries and others, the orthodox
                            > persepctive is now one among many and we are the richer for that. I
                            > am fond of a quote from Jeffrey Butz's book, _The Brother of Jesus_
                            > (p. 162), "Orthodoxy is merely the most successful heresy."
                            >
                            > BTW, I like your Kandinsky quote and the way it speaks to the
                            > relationship between form and content.
                            >
                            > Mark
                            >
                            > --- In gnosticism2@yahoogroups.com
                            > <mailto:gnosticism2%40yahoogroups.com>, dwain <dwain.alford@...> wrote:
                            > >
                            > > Mark wrote:
                            > > >
                            > > > dwain,
                            > > >
                            > > > I deal with this alternate interpretation as I deal with all the
                            > > > alternates: I pick the one that speaks to me. Hearing that which
                            > > > speaks to one is part of one's gnosis. If this alternate
                            > > > interpretation speaks to you, I affirm your gnosis.
                            > > >
                            > > > Mark
                            > > >
                            > > > --- In gnosticism2@yahoogroups.com
                            > <mailto:gnosticism2%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > > > <mailto:gnosticism2%40yahoogroups.com>, dwain <dwain.alford@>
                            > wrote:
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Mark wrote:
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Cari,
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > The person directly experiences the
                            > > > > > presence of the risen Christ in the form of his or her
                            > personal
                            > > > > > angel." This interpretation of this experience resonates
                            > better
                            > > > with
                            > > > > > me.
                            > > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > > how do you deal with the alternate gnostic approach that the
                            > > > crucifixion was a sham and also that jesus was satan and that john
                            > > > the baptist was the true messiah?
                            > > > >
                            > > > > dwain
                            > > > > --
                            > > > > Dwain Alford
                            > > > > web: http://www.studiokdd.com <http://www.studiokdd.com>
                            > <http://www.studiokdd.com <http://www.studiokdd.com>>
                            > > > >
                            > > > > "The artist may use any form which his expression demands;
                            > > > > for his inner impulse must find suitable expression." Kandinsky
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > it's not that i think it is correct, it is one of the alternates,
                            > as you
                            > > call it, that adds perspective to any understanding. questions are
                            > good
                            > > in that they allow for growth. i assume that if one was raised in
                            > a
                            > > christian atmosphere, this thinking would seem at odds with what
                            > one was
                            > > raised to "believe". in fact, gnosticism is at odds
                            > with "catholic"
                            > > (read universal) orthodoxy.
                            > >
                            > > dwain
                            > >
                            > > --
                            > > Dwain Alford
                            > > web: http://www.studiokdd.com <http://www.studiokdd.com>
                            > >
                            > > "The artist may use any form which his expression demands;
                            > > for his inner impulse must find suitable expression." Kandinsky
                            > >
                            >
                            >
                            thanks. i rather like it too.

                            a little off topic, but have you or any of the group read holy blood,
                            holy grail? the authors talk of the gnostics and their contributions.

                            dwain

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                            Dwain Alford
                            web: http://www.studiokdd.com

                            "The artist may use any form which his expression demands;
                            for his inner impulse must find suitable expression." Kandinsky
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