- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Gerry" <gerryhsp@...> wrote:
>Philip, they emphasized that Ignorance is clearly "the mother of all
> "Many other Gnostic texts" is right! You know how much I love a
> detailed and informative reply, but I'm still partial to the
> Valentinian's short answer for this question. In the Gospel of
evil." Doesn't leave much room for doubt, there.
> Yep, I hope everyone kept ol' Yaldabaoth in their thoughts around
> Mother's Day. In my estimation, he's been a real mother to all of
> ;-)Gerry, Are you suggesting all of "us" are evil? !!!!
> Speaking of which, I do hope to get my computer difficultiescorrected soon, but a reliable connection in the meantime is just
>Why not try your local library to connect while your waiting for
your computer to get fixed?. Some of "us" here are using our local
library to connect,:)
BTW, do you watch hockey? The "Canes" are going for their Conference
final game tonight, should be a good game to watch.
>>>With this background and also having read Freke and Gandy's booksand Elaine Pagels, Gnostic Gospel but mostly from experiencing
personal Gnosis which I'm sorry to say is being separated from this
discussion or seems to be discounted.<<<
It isn't that your personal definition of the word "Gnosis" is
discounted here, just that it isn't the definition of the
word "Gnosis" that this forum uses.
>>>Freke and Gandy explain the experience of Gnosis as more than canbe written, it must be experienced, it is that knowledge or knowing
beyond intellect that cannot contain the totality to Gnosis.<<<
Freke and Gandy also claim that this definition of the word "Gnosis"
is the one used by the traditional Gnostics... but I should point
out that Freke and Gandy are mistaken. We are a bit more technical
>>>You are all so intelligent but you miss the mark if you think youwill "get it" from all your books and reading, get quiet and get in
touch with the God with in and you may start to have Gnosis.<<<
You misunderstand, Aleada, no body suggested that your idea
of "Gnosis" is something that would be found in a book, but you need
to also understand the historical meaning of the word "Gnosis" and
not only the modern definition you get from people like Freke and
>>>>Whatever the culture it's all the same God or Great Spirit,whatever; the experience of Gnosis is the same, look at the mystics
and refer to Barbara's experience and you will see what it is to
No, that is what it means to have a mystical experience..... not
Gnosis. They are not the same thing.
Why do you feel that we must use your definition of the
word "Gnosis" rather than the one this forum was designed to deal
with? It isn't that I disagree with the importance of the experience
you are talking about, it is just that we don't call that
experience "Gnosis" here.