Re: [Gnosticism2] Re: book questions
- View SourceGerry wrote:
> Hi, Michael.
> I might have managed to chime in earlier, but I'm having some
> computer difficulties at the moment (on top of everything else), and my
> emergency laptop is little consolation.
> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, --Michael <epsilon717@...> wrote:
>> I was wondering if there's a significant difference between
>> _The Gnostic Bible_ and _The Other Bible_, both by Willis
> One other thing to keep in mind, Michael, is that both The Other Bible
> and The Gnostic Bible offer abridged versions for some of the translated
> texts. This is fine for those who are simply looking for an introductory
> taste of works excluded from their own religious tradition, or for those
> who prefer a flowing and accessible rendering of some of these diverse
> and difficult works, but for carefully examining what the Gnostic
> authors actually sought to convey, one would be well advised to balance
> those anthologies with Robinson's affordable compilation, The Nag
> Hammadi Library
> 60669357&itm=1> . I stress "affordable" there because the next step up
> in my own recommended reading list would be another series edited by
> Robinson, The Coptic Gnostic Library
> 7024&pdf=y&z=y> (the forerunner of the NHL).
> Since I've broached the subject of "readability" already, it should
> be mentioned that this is another aspect of Robinson's collection
> that should be taken into consideration. Personally, I frequently found
> myself avoiding certain tractates in his book simply because of the
> numerous lacunae. It's definitely a challenge to read something all
> the way through when it sometimes seems as if every passage consists of
> random words interspersed with countless bracketed ellipses. My own copy
> of the NHL is the first edition, so I was somewhat dismayed just now
> when I looked up a critique of his revised edition and found that the
> "new & improved" version was even more conservative (i.e., less fluid).
> The same reviewer suggested that it would be nice to see yet another
> revision in which those lacunae are preserved (so that the reader can
> see where actual gaps and irregularities exist in the extant originals),
> but where such voids in the text were supplemented with footnotes
> offering scholarly insight into what they likely contained. Frankly,
> such a work already exists (inasmuch as it is possible to speculate on
> filling some of those holes), but it is the more expensive CGL that I
> referred to above. If anyone here happens to own both editions of the
> popularly targeted NHL, I would be interested in hearing additional
> insights regarding differences between the translations presented in
> these two.
>> For that matter, how about _Gnosis : The Nature and History
>> of Gnosticism_ by Kurt Rudolph?
> As Cari said, this is a very good overview of the subject. As always,
> however, I wouldn't want anyone taking the opinions expressed
> therein as gospel, and neglecting the more recent research of other
> scholars in the field. Frankly, there are groups out there who do just
> that, not only with Rudolph's book, but even the older work of Hans
> Jonas. Basically, such people read these and seem to conclude that the
> measure of a Gnostic group is how similarly it resonates with
> Marcionism. When they get started on their rants, "Old Testament god
> bad; New Testament God good," it soon comes across as little more than a
> heavily dualistic, anti-Semitic brand of orthodoxy in which Jesus has
> still come to rescue us all from a life of sin. The mere concept of
> anything actually "transcendent" is usually lost on such individuals.
> If you run across these people in your Internet travels, you will
> recognize them immediately. ;-)
> Try the wife's, a Compaq Presario 1200, a P-1 peocessor and no USB, of course only one port on this Compaq P-IV 2 gig thing isn't USB. I don't really like that but it is fast, even with Windoze XP pro. Gotta try it with Linux!