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Re: what is an "Anti-Cosmic Dualism?" (Hermes)

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  • Mike Leavitt
    Hello pmcvflag ... Actuallly literal acceptance of authorship and age was quite common. Regards -- Mike Leavitt ac998_@_lafn._org remove - s
    Message 1 of 36 , Oct 2, 2005
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      Hello pmcvflag

      On 10/02/05, you wrote:

      > Hey Mike
      >
      >>>> Wasn't the emerald tablet known before the Renisance rediscovery
      >>>> of
      > the Hermetic texts, and cited by earlier Alchemists? If so, that
      > could lead to the idea it was more ancient. The Sephir Yedzirah was
      > out there long before the Zohar, for instance.<<<
      >
      > If I recall, the oldest version of the "Emerald Tablet" is from
      > around the 800s (AD), in Arabic. I think there were translations
      > from the 1200s in medieval Europe, and certainly there have been
      > people who thought these texts were very old. I am not sure exactly
      > where the discovery era presents any genuine reasoning for an older
      > date for the text, but of course even though the notion is not
      > relavant in modern thinking it could have been part of the reasoning
      > for people at the time. I can't say for sure. However, if you think
      > about it from the Renaissance rational, Hermes was a real person
      > from the time of Moses, which means that all hermetic writings that
      > were valid came from this historical person. So even then some texts
      > would not have predated the others.
      >
      > It is true, the Sefer Yetzirah predates the Zohar.... but it is also
      > from a different tradition than the Zohar. So, this could be more
      > like comparing pre-Hermetic ideas of "Hermes" with those of the
      > Corpus Hermetica. Yes, they predate them, but they also tell us a
      > limited amount about them.
      >
      > So, you could have a point there... the mere fact that the texts
      > were more popular and known before the Corpus Hermetica were
      > rediscovered could have lead some thinkers to the idea that they
      > were older. However, I am not sure exactly where this thinking would
      > have come from... all things considered.
      >
      > PMCV

      Actuallly literal acceptance of authorship and age was quite common.

      Regards
      --
      Mike Leavitt ac998_@_lafn._org remove -'s
    • Mike Leavitt
      Hello pmcvflag ... Actuallly literal acceptance of authorship and age was quite common. Regards -- Mike Leavitt ac998_@_lafn._org remove - s
      Message 36 of 36 , Oct 2, 2005
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        Hello pmcvflag

        On 10/02/05, you wrote:

        > Hey Mike
        >
        >>>> Wasn't the emerald tablet known before the Renisance rediscovery
        >>>> of
        > the Hermetic texts, and cited by earlier Alchemists? If so, that
        > could lead to the idea it was more ancient. The Sephir Yedzirah was
        > out there long before the Zohar, for instance.<<<
        >
        > If I recall, the oldest version of the "Emerald Tablet" is from
        > around the 800s (AD), in Arabic. I think there were translations
        > from the 1200s in medieval Europe, and certainly there have been
        > people who thought these texts were very old. I am not sure exactly
        > where the discovery era presents any genuine reasoning for an older
        > date for the text, but of course even though the notion is not
        > relavant in modern thinking it could have been part of the reasoning
        > for people at the time. I can't say for sure. However, if you think
        > about it from the Renaissance rational, Hermes was a real person
        > from the time of Moses, which means that all hermetic writings that
        > were valid came from this historical person. So even then some texts
        > would not have predated the others.
        >
        > It is true, the Sefer Yetzirah predates the Zohar.... but it is also
        > from a different tradition than the Zohar. So, this could be more
        > like comparing pre-Hermetic ideas of "Hermes" with those of the
        > Corpus Hermetica. Yes, they predate them, but they also tell us a
        > limited amount about them.
        >
        > So, you could have a point there... the mere fact that the texts
        > were more popular and known before the Corpus Hermetica were
        > rediscovered could have lead some thinkers to the idea that they
        > were older. However, I am not sure exactly where this thinking would
        > have come from... all things considered.
        >
        > PMCV

        Actuallly literal acceptance of authorship and age was quite common.

        Regards
        --
        Mike Leavitt ac998_@_lafn._org remove -'s
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