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Re: Platonism and Gnosticism.

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  • marinas_snake
    ... Thank you. Makes me wonder though. Marina
    Message 1 of 32 , Jun 11, 2005
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      --- In gnosticism2@yahoogroups.com, Mike Leavitt <ac998@l...> wrote:
      > Hello marinas_snake
      >
      > On 06/11/05, you wrote:
      >
      > > "Demiurge: According to the Gnostics (as opposed to Plato and others
      > > who had a more positive assessment), an inferior deity who
      > > ignorantly and incompetently fashioned the debased physical world"
      >
      > Let's look at the obvious, derrevation can be negative or positive, in
      > this case, the demiurge turns negative, but the idea was still
      > derived from the Platonists. Gnosis has a smaller role in Platonism,
      > but again Gnosis as salvation was derrived from it. Augustine
      > derrived original sin (I would bet) from Manachean ideas of good and
      > evil, but wound up looking quite different. Derrivation does not
      > mean carrying through ideas in the same way.
      >
      > Regards
      > --
      > Mike Leavitt ac998_@_lafn._org remove -'s


      Thank you. Makes me wonder though.

      Marina
    • marinas_snake
      ... Thank you. Makes me wonder though. Marina
      Message 32 of 32 , Jun 11, 2005
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        --- In gnosticism2@yahoogroups.com, Mike Leavitt <ac998@l...> wrote:
        > Hello marinas_snake
        >
        > On 06/11/05, you wrote:
        >
        > > "Demiurge: According to the Gnostics (as opposed to Plato and others
        > > who had a more positive assessment), an inferior deity who
        > > ignorantly and incompetently fashioned the debased physical world"
        >
        > Let's look at the obvious, derrevation can be negative or positive, in
        > this case, the demiurge turns negative, but the idea was still
        > derived from the Platonists. Gnosis has a smaller role in Platonism,
        > but again Gnosis as salvation was derrived from it. Augustine
        > derrived original sin (I would bet) from Manachean ideas of good and
        > evil, but wound up looking quite different. Derrivation does not
        > mean carrying through ideas in the same way.
        >
        > Regards
        > --
        > Mike Leavitt ac998_@_lafn._org remove -'s


        Thank you. Makes me wonder though.

        Marina
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