- Hmm, it's the lady who dropped off the face of the Earth. Nice to hear
from you again too... :)
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "mercyboxfan" <mercyboxfan@y...>
> --- In email@example.com, pmcvflag <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > Hi Karl,
> It's good to read your heady insights again. When I think about Seth
> and Sethian Gnosticism I think of just a derivation on Christian
> Gnosticism....Seth being substituted for Jesus. They were both (first
> century) baptism sects. Meaning that baptism was a way of bestowing
> or inviting gnosis for both beginning sects. They both believed that
> Seth and Jesus were embued with grace,christ,logos...whatever at the
> time of baptism. So much alike are they that you wonder how much of
> the Jesus mythos was taken from the already Sethian work in progress.
> This said...I really don't feel I know enough to make helpful
> comments. But here is a question....Some say the Sophian mythos
> started with Sethian Gnosticism...do you know what gospel, or what
> writing, this connection comes from?
> Sorry that I don't know enough to banter better...lol.
> Anne Marie
> > Hey all, hope the holiday season has been going well. We usually
> > slow down in here quite a bit at this time of year, but there is a
> > subject that I would like to bring up for the group.
> > It seems to me that we almost never talk about Sethian Gnosticism
> > here. In some of my recent posts I have observed this leaning
> > towards Valentinianism, not only here, but even in a lot of
> > liturature on the topic. I would like to talk about the groups that
> > are not so familiar to many people, namely Sethian forms of
> > Gnosticism.
> > A few specific issues I would like to bring up (but feel free to
> > bring up your own questions comments and observations)....
> > 1) There is some debate as to whether Gnosticism is an outgrowth
> > from Christianity with the Sethians being the farthest swing away
> > (as A. Logan states), or whether Sethians are an original source
> > the Valentinians are more of an attempt to modify it towards
> > Christianity (as B. Pearson outlines). Any comments?
> > 2) The Sethian cosmology is so destinct, and I can't think of any
> > real direct statements of "This is allegory" the way we see in a
> > couple Valentinian texts... and there has been some debate as to
> > whether this IS meant to be allegory or literal (or both). Thoughts?
> > 3) I have observed that while Valentinian thought seems the most
> > popular overall, there is a move by some modern groups that appeal
> > very much to the counterculture to take the "Sethian" outline as a
> > social rebelion, or an attack on "xians". Do you think this is an
> > accurate usage?
> > PMCV