Abrasax for Annie
- Hey Annie
Just a couple of corrections. Seven Sermons is not actually by
Basilides, it is a modern work.... by Jung actually.
Second, I am not aware of any traditional source that says anything
about Abraxas being "mad". If you take a look in our "links" section
you will see one for Gnostic terms, this should give a bit more
accurate a picture of how Abraxas (or Abrasax) is used historically.
Lastly, it is not "G-d's" face that has not been seen in the Gnostic
text, but the First Father that I believe you may be talking about...
who doesn't actually have a face to be seen. "G-d" is another story
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "annie" <annielu38@z...> wrote:
> They call it the tetragrammaton, or something like that, I forget
the exact spelling. It's the Hebrew name for what most people know
as 'Jehovah', and lately I see it made into 'Yahweh'. Hebrew doesn't
have vowels in the same sense the english language does. The Jewish
people wrote the name like that so as not to disrespect him by
calling him by name, or perhaps 'invoking' him, whatever the reason,
it was a no-no. But there's countless names which the Jews use for
him, Elohim, El Shaddai, just to name two of the root words. It's
> In the bible, when you see LORD in all caps, it should indicate the
original texts said YHVH.
> That points out another discrepancy between the OT and NT's gods,
(which are what you figured them to be) because I have read many
times in the Nag Hammadi and other apocryphal texts that, according
to the Savior, Christ ( Jesus to me), and several other voices, no
one's seen G-d's face, or knows G-d's name, there is no way we can
conceive of him. I can't remember if it's in the canonized bible,
> I have never been able to conceive of his image, and when I was
small I pondered on that quite a bit. Just recently, I've began to
concieve all of everything, 'creation', the surrounding 'where we
are' --which I imagine we are truly in the darkest and deepest place
in existence, not be grim :o( BTW--is part of that entity, but not in
a conscious manner, maybe, as it would drive any other being stark
raving mad immediately to be the essence of creation, wouldn't it?
All except for G-d. That's the idea of G-d that I have, so much
power and ineffableness that nothing could drive G-d mad. Unless we
think of that force as Abraxas, which from the little I've read, is
> I read the 'Seven Sermons to the Dead' by Basil Ides, which was the
first I'd encountered that word in use. I'd heard it but not known
what it was.
> Has anyone else read that? What else is written about Abraxas?
> love from annie
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> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, lady_caritas <no_reply@y...>
> >Hi, CS and Annie. Pneumen posted a link a little while ago that
> >might find interesting in case you missed it:
> >This offers a good summary of various Gnostic variations of
> >stories with links to scripture you can read in more detail.
> >Also, for any more newcomers, don't forget Gerry's recent
> >(For source material, i.e. Gnostic scriptures, in addition to
> >Layton's well-annotated _The Gnostic Scriptures_ that Gerry
> >I'd also suggest James M. Robinson's _The Nag Hammadi Library_.)
> Thanks Cari, I think I will visit those links, but I hope no one
> minds if I continue to ask questions in between readings. =)
> Annie, I think reading the Bible with two dieties in mind would
> Also, what does YHVH mean? OT means Old Testament & NT means New
> Testamnet, yes?
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- Hi Cari,
A quick reply to your post...
Thank you for your words of encouragement! I'm very glad to be in
this group and feel better about staying here. Some members have made
me feel welcome, however I wasn't sure about others. Now that you and
PMCV have explained things (which I had't thought about) I will
continue to ask questions, without feeling a little awkward. =)
["You are right that a foundation is most important, and sometimes in
order to answer your questions, we might need to first take a few
steps back to ensure that there is understanding regarding material
used to answer them. So, sometimes reading materials are suggested
or other times, basic assumptions are challenged (for instance, those
that might be a result of preconceptions learned from your previous
Yes, I agree!! BTW, the suggested reading material has been very
helpful, although I'm still trying to digest it all. =)
["Don't worry if your lines of discussion are different from others.
There are bound to be silent members reading out there who might very
well relate to you and possibly be encouraged to even drop in and
write a post of support. Who knows."]
Good point. This is one of the things I hadn't thought about.
["In any case, it disheartens me to see your self-deprecation here.
So, ask away. So far, I've seen lots of responses to your posts. :-)"]
PMCV and you have helped clear the air. Now, I do feel confident
knowing where I stand. And, yes there have been LOTS of (awesome)
replies to my posts.
Be on the look out for me (and my questions). =)