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8880Re: Amazing Grace

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  • lady_caritas
    Dec 22, 2003
      --- In gnosticism2@yahoogroups.com, Mike Leavitt <ac998@l...> wrote:
      > Hello lady_caritas
      > On 22-Dec-03, you wrote:
      > > No doubt, John Newton had an epiphany and many people in fact
      > > interpret his "Amazing Grace" on different levels. As far as
      > > himself though, what kind of conversion experience *does* he
      > > in his hymns? If we look at other hymns, we see a God outside of
      > > himself and words replete with orthodox atonement theology.
      > >
      > > http://homepage.mac.com/shanerosenthal/reformationink/newton.htm
      > He had a conversion experience alright, he went from being a
      > Presbyterian minister to being a Catholic Priest. I'm not sure that
      > qualifies as a gnostic experience, except in so far as Rome, in its
      > liturgy, at least, preserves a bit more of the original gnostic
      > content of the faith, than Presbyterianism does (though of course,
      > the Roman Catholics don't see it that way).
      > Regards
      > --
      > Mike Leavitt ac998@l...

      We talkin' about the same John Newton, Mike? ;-)

      I read from various sources that he was converted during a storm at
      sea while he was engaged in the African slave trade. He later became
      a minister in the Church of England.


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