- Sep 30, 2003Hello PMCV,
--- In email@example.com, pmcvflag <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Well, Magusadeptus, you may need to clarify for us. I have heard
> name applied to Bogimils, but I don't get the impression that this
> what you are talking about. I know that Epihpanius talks about two
> different groups by that name (which he tries to draw together in
> some way I can't remember... but that sounds typical), but I guess
> niether of those groups are who you are talking about.
> In any event, I am aware of no medieval groups that I would say are
> technically "Gnostic" (with the possible exception of the
> but the jury is still out on that one), and I am really not
> with any Messalians besides the several different groups I already
> mentioned. Maybe some of the other founders here know something, or
> one of our many very knowledgable members can help.
Perhaps this will help clarify. Here is the source that prompted my
question about the Messalians:
" The occultation of ancient alchemy's theoretical component can be
partially explained by religious considerations. Alchemy, a sacred
in the Hellenistic East, employed the metal-tinting recipes as part of
a redemptive ritual. Thus it competed with the new redemptive god of
the Christians, who suppressed the alchemical texts. Despite
certain heretical Christian sects, particularly the Gnostics,
secretly practice the Sacred Art. It has recently been suggested that
the alchemical-technological recipes may have passed surreptitiously
into the West with Cathar missionaries. The Cathars, in turn, learned
recipes from the Messalians, a medieval Gnostic sect that is known to
have practiced the Sacred Art and to have preserved secret books from
antiquity. Other recipes may have come with migrating craftsmen who
had been in contact with one or another of these heretical sects "
page 32, Science And The Secrets Of Nature, Books of Secrets in
and Early Modern Culture, William Eamon, Princeton University Press.
I appreciate your thoughts.
- << Previous post in topic Next post in topic >>