7451Re: Nag Hammadi codexes
- Apr 4, 2003--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Mike Leavitt <ac998@l...> wrote:
> Hello lady_caritasthe
> On 03-Apr-03, you wrote:
> > --- In email@example.com, ernststrohregenmantelrad
> > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> >> Hi sorry to butt in but...
> >>> Pistic Christian:
> >>> Sin = transgression; we're born with it, and can't escape it
> >> without someone else dying for us.
> >>> Creator = Loving, Supreme God, paradoxically also a jealous
> >> and selective god, but who cares-at least WE're saved if we but
> >> believe in Him.
> >> I don't think this is good definition.
> >> For "sin" if you say we are born with it it means you implied
> >> "original sin" which didn't come into exsitance until Augestineof
> >> Hippo. As you know Augestine went against the thinking of normoriginal
> >> in the church on many issues but some how this theology took
> >> over the church.
> >> For "creator" it becomes the problem if you take into account
> >> Marcion. So is Marcion "Gnostic" or "Pistic"?
> > Hello, Ernst. If I may butt in, too...
> > I think Gerry was offering definitions for what developed into a
> > more dogmatic, pistic "orthodox" Christianity, which had been part
> > of the discussion of this particular thread. The concept of
> > sin has been around for a long time and I wouldn't view Marcion asfor "pistic"
> > orthodox.
> > Perhaps you'd like to offer a more general definition
> > Christianity that would consider the points you brought up?Quite so, Mike! :-)
> > Cari
> Also, neither the Baptists (except perhaps for Faldwell), nor the
> Quakers nor the Unitarians believe in original sin. It is not
> automatically a belief of Pistic Christians. The Baptists, at least
> prove that.
> Mike Leavitt ac998@l...
Considering to whom Gerry was writing, I think it's possible he had
Roman Catholicism in mind, a religion well known to Incognita, and
perhaps he had no intention of offering this as a technical
definition, but one to which Incognita could relate. He might have
been oversimplifying to show conceptual differences between Gnostic
and mainstream usage of terms. Just a guess.
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