6479Re: Hi Flag
- Aug 14, 2002Ok, I'm here.... trying to catch up.
>What I was up to, even though I come in peace, was a bit of Flyingthe Flag, seeing as how that even if one looks only at the historical
there is much argument as to what defines [G]nosticism, as you noted
in #6465. In that light, I was musing on how the Flag would enforce
Hoeller's points don't really count as a debate in this instance.
While that page is good for it's resources, his personal views
include many things that we can readly regect.... for instance the
belief that Jaque de Molay is a "Gnostic Saint". I should also add
that any "edicts" that I post concerning the focus of this club are
actually founder concensus.... not just my own arbitrary choices.
There is scholastic disagreement on just who is Gnostic and who isn't
(which BTW makes that list of Gnostic groups and thier supposed
beliefs, can't remember who posted it, very questionable. Some of the
groups listed are not generally considered "Gnostic", some of them
are groups that we simply don't know enough about to say if they
believed that or not. And, in some cases this list can make it's
point based on a technicality, but if understood as a general denial
of the whole statement then is creating a false impression. For
instance #9 on the list and the Na'asenes. We could speculate on
whether or not they would have believed that whole statement, but as
Terje points out already, they definately had a notion
of "Sophia")... there are also areas of general agreement on the
soteriological and basic cosmogenic structure of Gnosticism, not to
mention it's basic historical venue. So, if by "edict" you mean the
focus of the club, that is easy. By "Gnosticism", in this club it is
meant; the groups in the late antiquities that placed thier
soteriological emphasis on "Gnosis", and conformed to the basic
cosmoconception obtained via Platonic syncratism. This can be boiled
down to simply say that the historical groups given the widest
scholastic consensus within the category, as well as the most
commonly debated ones, are a valid points of conversation.
>I guess my question is this (for any and all who would care toanswer): How do I upgrade my small g to a Big G?<
Why would you want to?
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