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  • ernststrohregenmantelrad
    Jun 11 2:14 PM
      and he loves t-bone and ribs

      --- In gnosticism2@y..., hey_market <no_reply@y...> wrote:
      > No, he's just a carnivore who exploited an ideal opportunity for
      > humor. It's the hermes in him.
      >
      > --- In gnosticism2@y..., s_e_k_h_m_e_t <no_reply@y...>
      wrote:
      > >
      > > Wow! Hoeller sees the somatic maintenance of his
      existence
      > as an act
      > > of revenge??!!
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > --- In gnosticism2@y..., hey_market <no_reply@y...> wrote:
      > > > Lots of fun food for thought there Sekhmet. Speaking of
      > which, the
      > > > pre-eminnent Gnostic leader Stephan Hoeller makes the
      > following
      > > > great, humorous case for eating meat:
      > > >
      > > > When militant vegetarians lecture him for eating meat, he
      > first
      > > > shares the familiar observation that plants are living beings
      > too--
      > > > just like animals--so vegetarians are also eating living
      > things.
      > > Then
      > > > he immediately follows this comment by adding that he's
      an
      > avowed
      > > > activist and eats cows and pigs for revenge!
      > > >
      > > > Of course, at this point the vegetarian is perhaps a bit
      > > encouraged,
      > > > but mostly a bit perplexed, and so they ask what he means,
      > at which
      > > > time Hoeller explains that he eats cows and pigs to exact
      > revenge
      > > > against them for eating and killing plants throughout their
      > lives!
      > > >
      > > > --- In gnosticism2@y..., s_e_k_h_m_e_t <no_reply@y...>
      > wrote:
      > > > > Well perhaps I am mixing systems but I would worry
      about
      > > > > eating the cucumber.
      > > > >
      > > > > If one posits the cucumber is inhabited by a plant spirit,
      > > > > (perhaps one that has evolved through stones and
      worms
      > etc, or
      > > > > even been an auditing gnostic at some stage, perhaps
      that
      > spirit
      > > > > would be doing a good enough job of its own to liberate
      the
      > light
      > > > > from the cucumber.
      > > > >
      > > > > Could one just ify slaughtering a bird or an animal which
      > may be
      > > > > addressing the issue similarly.
      > > > >
      > > > > I thought about plastic as a non carnivorous, non-plant
      > potential
      > > > > foodstuff, but then when I came to consider actually
      > swallowing
      > > > > the stuff I started to think about chocloate instead.
      > > > >
      > > > > Arguably in the chocolate one is interacting with thc cocoa
      > plant
      > > > > spirit, although if one buys it in the UK the interaction will
      be
      > > > > more with trans and saturated fats, and a mix of sugar
      > which
      > > > > has probably never seen a sugarcane and milk which
      has
      > > > > already travelled a very long way since last providing a
      > home for
      > > > > the grass spirit.
      > > > >
      > > > > A prime candidate for light regeneration, surely.
      > > > >
      > > > > Felis
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > --- In gnosticism2@y..., hey_market <no_reply@y...>
      wrote:
      > > > > > You hit on a tough question, one that begs a
      > consideration of
      > > > > being
      > > > > > either a liberator or the liberated.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Consider that chocolate, for all of its tempting density,
      > must
      > > be
      > > > > > relatively bad for you, or at least not as liberating as
      > eating
      > > a
      > > > > > light and spiritually spritely slice of cucumber. Certainly
      > we
      > > > feel
      > > > > > better about the world after eating chocolate than a
      > cucumber.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > However, while eating a cucumber may be better for
      you
      > due it
      > > > > > liberating value, eating chocolate is better for the
      > chocolate
      > > > > due to
      > > > > > your liberating value.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > It kinda goes back to the whole
      > "blessed-is-the-lion-eaten-by-
      > > > > a-man,
      > > > > > but-cursed-is-the-man-eaten-by-the-lion" thang.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > I reckon cucumber eaters are buddhas of light while
      > chocolate
      > > > > eaters
      > > > > > are bodhisattvas off light liberation.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > --- In gnosticism2@y..., s_e_k_h_m_e_t <
      no_reply@y...>
      > > > > wrote:
      > > > > > > Hmmm. Perhaps I will have that chocolate after all. ;-
      )
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Felis Mala
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > --- In gnosticism2@y..., "morphodyte"
      > <morphodyte@y...>
      > > > > wrote:
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > For example, the process of digestion through
      which
      > light
      > > > > is
      > > > > > > > refined back into consciousness and delivered
      back
      > into
      > > > > the
      > > > > > > > Realm of Light by the Elect at the ritual feast is
      > > discussed
      > > > > in
      > > > > > the
      > > > > > > > book.
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > I recommend it.
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > yes, this is my first post to this list, I have a long
      > > > standing
      > > > > > > interest
      > > > > > > > in Gnosticism, some of you may recognize me from
      > > > > > > > GnosticThought and elsewhere.
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > Morph
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