12661Re: Fwd: [christiandruids] The People of the Scrolls
- Aug 3, 2006Darkchylde
>>>Hmmm. I give up. Should I ask her?<<<Sure, if you wish. I think, though, that we can point out simple and
obvious problems with the proposition, such as the fact that the
Essenes don't predate the Greek Mysteries.
>>>Well, I'm quite sure that is as true today as it was then. But Idon't believe Yeshua was a rabbi, personally, although he was
refered to as one I don't think he felt as if he was one-at least he
didn't refer to himself in that manner. If he had been, I doubt if
the established religious orders would have considered him as much
of a threat.<<<
Agreed, the term "rabbi" was simply a common term that need not have
implied an official office or position in a particular sect.
>>>Such trails seem to be blazed frequently in this forum. I am of thepersonal belief that all religions are different paths to the same
light (even mine), but some paths do go round and round more than
others; however, I understand your need to set yourself apart. I do
find it facinating that you are so sure of what the ancients
thought. Do you channel, by any chance?<<<
Channel? No *lol*... I simply read. Rather anticlimactic, I know.
Perhaps I should try to cultivate a greater taste for drama. Still,
it is pretty amazing that without even canneling I have been able to
determine what William Blake felt about the Christian Church, what
the anabaptists believed about baptism, Dante's political
affiliation, and many other bits of trivia.... including what the
Gnostics generally believed about some things.
In any event, it is simple deduction on my part that when they talk
about religions they believe to be false (such as those who follow
the Demiurge) it implies they believe religions can be false.
Perhaps, though, you feel I am far to speculative in making such a
leap. If you feel you can make a better case for another view being
presented in Gnostic texts, then it is what we are here to explore
and I encourage you to do so.
There is a hint in Apoc of John (for instance) that this particular
author (or redactionist) felt all were eventually saved (which isn't
exactly the same as saying all paths lead to the same place, but it
could be interprated in a similar vein). Even then it states that
some are taken by a false messege, a "counterfeit spirit". Most
Gnostic texts are pretty clear in their message that not everyone
finds Gnosis, and that there are indeed false paths and errors. Some
even go so far as to state that they are part of an exclusive and
seperate "race" of beings. I am simply taking them at their word on
that one and assuming they mean what they said.
This is not to argue or imply that you should agree with those
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